Is the top in for the Dow?

Jun 20, 2012, 02:59

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On Monday I set out my case for a big fall in the Dow.

And then yesterday, the US market staged a 95-point rally. So have I changed my view? Read on and I’ll show you what I think’s happening.

By the way, two of my other favourite markets to trade – the euro and gold - are also at critical junctures, and I’ll cover one or the other on Friday.

But with political developments coming thick and fast, let’s stick with the Dow today. The charts are throwing up some valuable lessons that you can use to improve your trading.

Why this Fibonacci level could be important

Of course, all eyes are on the Fed right now. Later today, we’ll know what attitude Bernanke and Co are taking towards policy action – if any – in the face of a deteriorating US economy. Given the Dow’s new bear market rally high yesterday, the market clearly believes more quantitative easing (QE) in some form is on the way.

But we’re interested in the charts. So let’s see what they’re telling me now.

Well, because of yesterday’s rally extension, I’ve had to modify my Elliott wave labels somewhat. I’ll get to this a little later.

First, let’s take a step back and re-examine the bigger picture to see if anything fundamental has changed in my analysis. Here is the four-hour chart taking in the 1 May 13,330 fifth-wave top:

Dow Jones spread betting chart

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From the 4 June 12,000 low, the rally still has an A-B-C format (so far), but now, the C wave is a little more complicated than I showed in Monday’s post.

Looking at the Fibonacci levels on this rally, the market has poked above the 62% level and seems to be toying with it. Note that on the A wave top on Monday, we had a similar poke above the 50% level before selling drove the market back down.

Will the pattern be repeated here? If not, the market could stage a further advance perhaps to the Fibonacci 76% retrace in the 13,000 area. This could be initiated by a ‘bullish’ Fed announcement today.

Keep an eye on the T-Bond market

Interestingly, the US Treasury market appears unconcerned by a possible extension of the Fed monetising national debt. Take a look at this hourly chart of the September T-Bond:

US Treasuries spread betting chart

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The 4 June high at 152.5 occurred at the same time that the Dow low was being made, and the recent consolidation appears to have corrected the 5.5 handle decline and may be ready for the next leg down.

If so, this could be accompanied by a Dow rally to my Fibonacci 76% retrace, as T-Bonds and the Dow move in an anti-sync manner.

So, my eyes will be firmly on the Treasury market as well as on the Dow this week.

OK, now let’s zoom in to the Dow chart and see what the small-scale picture can tell us. Here is the hourly chart showing my C wave:

Dow Jones spread betting chart

(Click on the chart for a larger version)

Last time, I had my C wave high at Monday’s high, but now I can place the C? wave top at yesterday’s high which makes the new labelling just as good as before.


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Here’s my ideal scenario for the Dow

So there are two options in the near term, it seems to me…

The first is for a rally beyond the 62% level towards the 13,000 area at the 76% Fib retrace. That might be an excellent place for me to look to short.

The second is for the 62% level to hold and a decline to take it down towards the support at my pink bar. A break here should confirm the top is in and we are at the early stages of a large third wave down. 

This is what my ideal scenario now looks like:

Dow Jones spread betting chart

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The large wave 1 lies at the 12,000 low and I am still looking for confirmation of the wave 2 top. But when it is in place, wave 3 down should be spectacular, and that is why I am willing to try to establish an early position in anticipation.

Trader tip: When attempting to pick market tops or bottoms, sometimes my first attempt is wrong and I must keep looking. But the rewards will often be well worth the attempts! But you may be of a different disposition where you need to be more certain that a new trend is in place before pulling the trigger. You will often pay a price for this ‘insurance’, as your protective stops will necessarily be wider. It’s horses for courses again.

By the way, the other feature of this wave 2 rally is that it is taking the form of an up-sloping wedge, and these usually resolve downwards.

So this morning, the market has options. Later today, many of my questions should be answered, I’m quite sure. But watch the Treasuries – they hold the key.

Before I sign off, let me leave you with this thought…

I note that, whenever the Fed has made a QE or Operation Twist announcement, the market has invariably peaked and heavy selling has ensued. Will today be any different? Let’s wait and see!

Thrilling times we’re in, aren’t they? Share your thoughts below.

• If you’re a new reader, or need a reminder about some of the methods I refer to in my trades, then do have a look at my introductory videos:

The essentials of tramline trading
Advanced tramline trading
An introduction to Elliott wave theory
Advanced trading with Elliott waves
Trading with Fibonacci levels
Trading with 'momentum'
Putting it all together

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  • 1. General rastus

    (20 June 2012, 04:00PM)  Complain about this comment

    I have to laugh when this guys comments come through via email. Elliot waves Fibonacci tramlines etc etc.....

    Means absolutly nothing at the end of the day...

    Nobody knows which way the market is going to move from 5 minutes to another otherwise they would be billionaires and not earning a pittance in comparison writing Blogs.....

  • 2. pcntrader

    (20 June 2012, 04:36PM)  Complain about this comment

    Dear General rastus,

    Actually you couldn't be more wrong on the subject, thanks in large part to JB I make a self employed living via the markets, all I need is my laptop and the internet. I move between Spain and Thailand, although as I understand it that puts me in an 11% bracket of traders (can't vouch that %) so you're right in that it's not for everyone.

  • 3. General rastus

    (20 June 2012, 04:46PM)  Complain about this comment

    pcn trader

    Likewise I make a living trading the Markets to a reasonable level and also from Thailand part of the year (Buriram) but all these Guru's leave me cold.

    All this anaylsis, technical trading etc etc is a total load of codswallop in my opnion. I follow my own instincts on Indices and am right far more often than wrong...

  • 4. Joe

    (20 June 2012, 05:09PM)  Complain about this comment

    General rastus, it's surprising that you keep reading these emails if you find nothing in it. There must be some reason you keep reading!

    For my side, I think JB's emails are very useful. They're always clear and interesting and have helped me improve my trading no end. It's uncanny how often John's tramlines and fib levels mark turning points. You should persevere with them.

    Keep them coming John. thanks

  • 5. pcntrader

    (20 June 2012, 05:53PM)  Complain about this comment

    General rastus,

    hey nice to meet a fellow Thailand based trader : ) Remember the secret is to find what works for you, if you've managed that then well done. Each to their own right? Chok dee na krap.

  • 6. Gordon Freeman

    (21 June 2012, 01:09AM)  Complain about this comment

    Well, no QE3 but op twist extended! So why didn't the market sell off like last September? There seem to be a few headlines around claiming the Fed did more stimulus today, is op twist considered that way? I didn't think it was inflationary like pure QE. So the question is, will the market throw a tantrum over the coming days/weeks, or will they continue clinging on to hopium ('oh, I'm sure the next QE will come at the NEXT fomc meeting!')?? Lol

  • 7. Llewelyn

    (21 June 2012, 01:25AM)  Complain about this comment

    Dear John,

    I'm sure you ignore comments such as the one made by gen. Rats ass. However, I still feel compelled to let you know that I really enjoy your analysis and look forward to each of your articles. I too use Fibonacci levels in my trading although I personally find wave counting too subjective for my style of trading and temperament. I need strict rules or I sometimes take marginal expectancy trades that I shouldn't! Anyway, keep the articles coming please.

  • 8. Chris

    (21 June 2012, 09:46AM)  Complain about this comment

    Hi John

    I just wanted to say thanks so much for your expert analysis. It is truly a gift for someone like you to be sharing your knowledge with us all.
    I am beginning to have the confidence to look for market opportunities using many different techncal tools as well gaining an insight into how the market reacts to external influences.
    I am now providing a much needed supplement to my income and I can't thank you enough. I have come from being a prolific gambler to a much more thoughtful trader and I am recovering my early losses using your technicques.

    Keep them coming and good luck everyone; including you General Rastus (your going to need it)!!

  • 9. smlaing

    (21 June 2012, 10:03AM)  Complain about this comment

    You're bang on John. I took short positions at 12870 and also in the FTSE. The Dow has moved 870 points on nothing but hot air. (cheaper than QE) last time the FED did QE was at 10,040, there was never a chance of it this time.

    Enjoy the ride down. I look forward to it..........I hope!

  • 10. Carlo

    (21 June 2012, 02:46PM)  Complain about this comment

    Thanks for your updates John, for a novice, I find your articles very informative and a great platform to build a strategy.

    But... I believe the Dow is poised to rise to c. 13,400. If you look at the daily chart it seems a 5-wave pattern emerged from the Oct-11 lows of 10,406; with wave 1 up to 12,224 (Fib 38.2%) in Nov-11 followed by a looooong (4-month) 3rd wave ending at the 1-May high 13,307. The 4th wave went down to 12,000 on 4-Jun and we are currently, and in my opinion in a 5th wave. At present I am long with a view/stop to 13,400 to complete the pattern - which by that stage I believe this market will be out of steam.

  • 11. Mr Blanc

    (21 June 2012, 05:22PM)  Complain about this comment

    Looks like the market might well be selling off now. I'm short, let's see where it goes. Worth noting that June 2010 and 2011 both had a similar shape (up for the first half, down for the second half) having rallied from a down month in May. History repeating itself?

    General Rastus, have you tried using Fibonacci? Personally when first learned about them and started plotting the lines, it nearly blew my mind how they well they can coincide with reversals.

    Fibs don't lie

    Keep up the good work Mr Burford, loving the emails.

  • 12. Get Shorty

    (21 June 2012, 08:59PM)  Complain about this comment

    Great call, John. That 62% fib line held like a beaut! And down she goes . Not sure I'll stay in for long but it's been a nice move so far. Loving your coaching - keep the emails coming.

  • 13. Prince Myshkin

    (22 June 2012, 03:37PM)  Complain about this comment

    @Carlo, I would suggest that your wave count is incorrect. Although JB often ignores the Elliot wave rules (which is a shame as there are very few of them), you should remember that wave 4 can never retrace into the price territory of wave 1 unless it is an ending or leading diagonal. I follow JB's blog because his tramline trading interests me but a lot of what is written is a dumbed down version of Robert Prechter's opinion which can be found at Elliotwave.com. I hasten to add that I am merely a subscriber and not in the employment of EW.com but I am certain JB is also a subscriber and relies heavily on this resource to write his blog.
    I wish you prosperous trading.

  • 14. Carlo

    (22 June 2012, 04:07PM)  Complain about this comment

    @ Prince Myshkin, thanks for your comment, and you are spot on regarding retracement... I probably should have prefaced my comment that it isn't the most ideal pattern! In my defense the dip I mentioned in the 4th wave did rebound quickly to a more suatable level which is why I was somewhat sanguine about it. Nevertheless the sell-off on the Dow overnight has added another nail in the coffin of this position of mine!

    Thanks for the link, I have seen the site previously but was put off initially becasue it's a bit of a mess and not easy to navigate, but I might persist given that I seem to be tuning into wave theories more and more at the moment. Another fantastic reference is Todd Gordon if you manage to catch him on CNBC

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