What we couldn’t say on CNBC

By Bill Bonner Oct 26, 2012

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You might have seen us on TV this morning. CNBC invited us to the Paris studio.

We sat in the room alone, with a television screen in front of us and a microphone in our ear. We wondered what they wanted to ask us.

When the question came, it puzzled us. We were not prepared for so many muddled assumptions in a single interrogatory.

“Isn’t the world economy extremely fragile, right now?" the interviewer led us along. "And don’t central banks have to deal with the problem before them, right now, and then, after the economy is more stable, they can turn their attentions to the more fundamental issues?”

The question assumes that 1) the world economy is supposed to be doing something it is not, and 2) that the central banks can make it do what they want, and 3) then, they’ll be able to do something else with it (addressing fundamental problems.)

Trouble is, each assumption is wrong, delusional or pure fantasy.

How do central banks know what the economy should be doing? Of course, they don’t. They only know what they want it to do. In the present case, they want faster rates of growth. But how can they get faster rates of growth? The question presumes that they can use ‘stimulus’ to get it to speed up.

What, exactly, is this stimulus?

We reminded our interviewers that the original insight for stimulus measures came from the Bible. Pharaoh had a dream. Seven fat cows were devoured by seven lean cows. Joseph advised him to put into place a counter-cyclical economic policy. Pharaoh would save grain during the fat years and give it out during the lean ones. This turned out to be a successful policy.

But central banks and central governments never save any grain. Fat years, lean years – they spend, spend, spend. When the lean years come, they go to the granary. There’s nothing there. They have nothing to stimulate with.

So what ‘stimulus’ were our interviewers talking about? Credit! And printing press money!

It is as if Pharaoh had not set aside grain. Instead, in the lean years, he borrowed the farmers’ seed corn. This would have given a little stimulus to the people, but then, come spring, they would have had no grain to plant and nothing to harvest.

Similarly, the feds borrow money, taking it from private investors and thereby depriving the economy of the savings it needs to create jobs and factories. Or, going even further, it simply prints up extra money.

Imagine Pharaoh doing the same thing – putting sawdust in the granaries and pretending it was wheat! Thanks a lot!


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“Well, we’re certainly getting into the Christian allusions,” said one interviewer. We thought we detected a snide tone. As if there is nothing in the Bible worth learning, nothing that modern, enlightened economists don’t already know.

"They’re not Christian allusions at all", we thought to ourselves. "They’re Jewish allusions. Christ wasn’t even born until hundreds of years later."

But we held our tongue. No point in confusing the nice young lady with history.

Then, they wanted to know about the ‘fiscal cliff’. Surely, something will be done to avoid a catastrophe, won’t it?

The fiscal cliff is a non-problem, we observed. It will turn out more like a ‘fiscal water slide’, we continued. ‘It will be exciting for a while, and we’ll all get soaked in the end.’

And it doesn’t make any difference who wins the White House either. What the economy needs is real stimulus, not the phoney stimulus offered by Obama and Romney. Not the measly spending cuts. Not the timid tax increases.

Most likely, the fiscal water slide will result in very modest ‘cuts’ and very modest tax increases. The net effect will be zero, since the feds will both take and give, probably in equal amounts.

Real stimulus means the feds have to stop taking so much of the nation’s resources and stop directing them to unproductive zombie sectors. Real stimulus means a big cut in government spending. And big cuts in government regulations. And fewer bail-outs and subsidies and giveaways. The zombies won’t like it.

Real stimulus means more money and more resources in the hands of the productive sector where they can be invested in new, productive industries.

Real stimulus means more money for the future and less for the past.

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  • 1. Alex Simpkin

    (26 October 2012, 04:52PM)  Complain about this comment

    Excellent Bill. You gave your interviewers, themselves well invested in the current status quo, a good run for their money. Simple truths hurt too much it seems. Keep up the good work.

  • 2. LERENARD

    (26 October 2012, 07:22PM)  Complain about this comment

    Good biblical metaphors. Perhaps what MBA students really need is to study the bible and history to disabuse them of the notion that they are the experts and there is nothing that these masters of the universe don't already know It is science that have us believe that we can ultimately control everything, so why not the economy? It would seem that science is powerless against the deep seated human failings of ignorance, greed and denia, amongst others...!

  • 3. Brian Chance

    (26 October 2012, 07:54PM)  Complain about this comment

    The Bible also requires a "Jubilee" every 50 years when all debts, which in those days were usually loans secured on family lands, were forgiven and the land was restored to the families who lived and worked there.
    Private ownership of land has continued down the ages because it is the easy way to claim wealth from those who produce it without giving anything in return. The law grants landowners premier zombie status.
    Real freedom to live and work will only be possible if the economic rent of land, generated by the presence and work of the people is returned to them by way of annual land value taxation as explained more than a century ago by Henry George.

  • 4. andy

    (27 October 2012, 04:01AM)  Complain about this comment

    Watched with great amusement. They just couldn't wrap their heads around what Bill was saying. Professing to be wise they became fools

  • 5. Read A Colin

    (29 October 2012, 06:17PM)  Complain about this comment

    After almost a decade as a Daily Reckoning Sufferer it was a pleasure to see Bill on CNBC. Bill often mentions something to the effect that a disorderly end to the current financial system is inevitable and says all you can do is sit back and enjoy the show. Its clearly not just an clever quip based on Bill's obvious amusement at the question from Bill Blane, the guest presenter who asked what Mr Bonner his thoughts on the Fiscal Cliff and the need to continue spending. With a wry smile Bill replied "You know there are some many points of confusion in that question that it's hard to know where to start.."
    Mr Bonner went on to explain the smoke and mirrors of the current economic policies...... It was a clear statement of the realities of economics and the economy. Lets hope that CNBC had a good audience for the interview.

    "Classic Bonner!"

  • 6. John Nicholls

    (01 November 2012, 11:19PM)  Complain about this comment

    No Pophet is recognised in his own country!

    The problem has been clearly identified and until it is fixed the machine cannot work properly - no matter how much it is polished.

    There may be a way of progressively transfereing resources to the productive sector to allow Zombies to be assimilated in a controlled manner - but democratic governments work on such short timescales such policies would not be allowed time to become effective

  • 7. Dr D Ball

    (04 November 2012, 08:52PM)  Complain about this comment

    I have never heard Bill before. What crystal clear common sense!
    Pity it went right over the head of his interviewers who obfuscated hopelessly with "Christian" and "Fundamentalism" irrelevances.

  • 8. Oliver OCB

    (13 November 2012, 02:56PM)  Complain about this comment

    I have been reading Bill for a while and love his frank honest appraisal of the world we live in. The trouble is we keep voting for these fools and thus let them carry on making a mess of things.The politicians and their cronies created the mess in the first place. How can we expect them to then correct it?

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