Markets are at a turning point – is another crash coming?

By Dominic Frisby Feb 03, 2010

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After last week’s dramatic sell-off in the world’s stock markets, the big question now is: is this just a healthy shake-out in an ongoing rally, such as we saw last June? Or is it the start of something worse?

There are some – and I am one of them – who feel that the enormous rally since March 2008 has been nothing more than a bear market rally. I believe we are more likely to re-test the lows of March 2009 before the highs of October 2007.

As I have noted before, there are numerous parallels between now, and the crash of 1929 and the subsequent bear market rally, which retraced 50% of the falls and ended some six months later in April 1930. Let’s take a look at them...

Markets are at a turning point

Nick Laird of Sharelynx.com emailed me this chart during the week of the US stock market between 1925 and 1934. It’s pretty clear where he thinks we are in the grand scheme of things – and what happens next.

There are other notorious bears, such as Robert Prechter, who subscribe to this highly pessimistic view.

The anatomy of each crash (1929 and 2008) was remarkably similar, in both duration and size. But the lead-ups were not. In 1929 the crash came straight off the highs. By contrast, in 2008 the indices had been in decline for almost a year before the crash started, while most stocks had been falling for a good six months or more before that. The financials, for example, capitulated in autumn 2008, but their decline began in late February 2007, some 18 months earlier.

There have also been similarities in the post-crash rebound. But whereas, at one stage, I thought 2009 would be a virtual repeat of 1930, it hasn’t played out like that. The size of the bear market rally has been remarkably similar, in that roughly 50% of the falls were retraced.

In 1929, the Dow Jones Industrial peaked at 381 on 4 September. It hit a low of 199 on 13 November. It then rallied to a high of 294 in April 1930, a 52% retracement of the falls. In the most recent crash and rally, from a high of 14,200 in October 2007 to a low of 6,470 last March, the Dow has made a 55% retracement to 10,730. But the duration of this rally – some ten months and counting this time, compared to six months then – is considerably longer.


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Its too risk to buy into this tired market

It’s interesting to compare the similarities between the two periods of history. Given that we face many of the same underlying problems (excess debt and leverage) now as in 1929, we can look at what happened then to get an idea of what might happen now. But you shouldn’t get too wedded to the theory that one will be a straight repeat of the other. There are plenty of other examples where the rallies following a strong decline, such as 1987 and 1998, have led to an entirely new bull market. People have made good money this last year. Many investors are feeling wealthy again. Don’t underestimate the power of such positive sentiment.

But having said that, while I am not as bearish as Prechter and others, I am not buying stocks here. There is too much risk to the downside. Look at the chart of the S&P 500 below. Technically, the rising trendline has been broken. The 55-day moving average has been broken and we have a ‘rising wedge’ formation. (Outlined by the black lines in the chart below). This is a bearish pattern, often found at the end of uptrends. Many traders use a downside break from a rising wedge as a signal to short sell, particularly when – as is the case here – volume has been falling.

I have made bearish calls on this market before and been wrong. But I maintain that this looks like a tired market that is losing momentum. The recovery of the last two days could be a normal correction of a short-term oversold condition, or it could be the start of a significant leg up beyond 1,150. I’m opting for the former. One clue will be how the market reacts to the 55-day moving average (blue line) when it retests it.

The dollar's rally continues

Meanwhile, the US dollar has been rallying. As we have noted before, if the dollar rallies, broadly speaking, everything else falls. I still have a target of 92 on the US dollar index. Here is an update of the chart I posed a few weeks back. There is a lot of resistance at the 80-81 area, but if we get through that, it could move up fairly swiftly.

Gold remains on course for $1,400

Finally, gold. We remain on course for my spring target of $1,400 an ounce. There are, of course, all sorts of things that could derail this – capitulating stock markets being one of them – but for now gold is behaving according to the script. (I have outlined this ‘up-move pattern’ in previous Money Mornings: What’s next for the gold price?)

I’ll have more detail on this in another Money Morning. But for now bear in mind that in the post-1929 environment, when gold was the number one asset class, the really big moves came from mid-1932 onwards, when the stock markets finally bottomed. So it may be that the REALLY big moves in gold – when it goes to silly numbers, as I’m sure it one day will – are still a couple of years away yet. For now, hang on to the bull and don’t let him throw you off.

My final chart shows Homestake, the leading gold miner of the day, vs the Dow in the 1920s and 1030s. It shows what can happen …

 

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  • 1. paul, north yorkshire

    (03 February 2010, 11:14AM)  Complain about this comment


    I agree with Dominics comments about an impending downturn in the markets and note his observations about physical gold.
    How will a downturn affect Gold Mining share prices? eg
    Blackrock Gold and General.
    Is it wise to sell now and buy back when the correction has occured?
    regards
    Paul, North Yorkshire

  • 2. Tom, Cardiff

    (03 February 2010, 11:23AM)  Complain about this comment

    Could not agree more with this article. When the FTSE 100 paused for breath last summer, underlying momentum remained strong. However momentum has been weakening since the autumn and has now turned negative (on my own private measures). Whether the market will resume its rise or not I do not know but I am pretty sure where the balance of risk and reward currently lies.

  • 3. Peter

    (03 February 2010, 11:39AM)  Complain about this comment

    Dominic. Agreed about the bearish position we are in and I am also a cautious follower of Prechter, but the charts are all for the US which was then on the way to becoming a dominant world economy whilst the UK's economy on its way to the sunset of a world power.

    Would it be more instructive to do a "shift East" and present the British graphs during the last crash as an illustration of what may happen to the S&P and the dollar now that it is the US's turn to be in thrall to the economic growth in the East?

  • 4. Simon, London

    (03 February 2010, 11:47AM)  Complain about this comment

    I agree, the volume is incredibly weak and the market is loosing momentum, the volume actually increased when the market, never a good sign, get ready for another big leg down! I'm predicting we'll get at least close to the march lows.

  • 5. Simon, London

    (03 February 2010, 11:48AM)  Complain about this comment

    the volume actually increased when the market, never a good sign

  • 6. IJ

    (03 February 2010, 11:51AM)  Complain about this comment

    "But you shouldn’t get too wedded to the theory that one will be a straight repeat of the other. " I'm glad you put in this disclaimer, Dominic. While understanding that we don't have much else to go on, I'm very sceptical about these historical comparisons. You mention the similarites between the current period and the Great Depression, but not the differences, which are far greater in my opinion. I can't list them in the space provided, but in short, the world is a very different place now and I only need to look outside the window to see this is no great depression. Sure, history repeats itself, rhymes or whatever, but only in a very broad sense. More often than not, though, it doesn't. But just as we have a bias towards spotting similarities and not differences, we only notice the patterns that do repeat.

  • 7. Keith P

    (03 February 2010, 12:06PM)  Complain about this comment

    I find it very inconsistent of Money Morning to have in the same edition two articles. This one, 'Its too risky to buy into this tired market', and another on '18 investments to buy now', which consists of 'experts' disagreeing on significant issues - such as the prospects for gold. Either we do buy into markets, or we don't because the bears are winning. I don't see how we can do both. But either way, however, Money Morning has got it covered. If the market goes down - told you so. If investments go up - weren't our tips good!

  • 8. geofftictoc

    (03 February 2010, 12:54PM)  Complain about this comment

    I don't know how you can be bullish on gold and the US dollar at the same time. I can't lay my hands on a link to a chart at the moment, but if I could it would show a perfectly symmetrical mirror image of the inverse relationship between the two. When the dollar goes up, gold goes down. Only very rarely do the two march together in the same direction.

  • 9. wen

    (03 February 2010, 01:22PM)  Complain about this comment

    I have been following you for a while. Just quick one on US dollar.
    Keep things simple look at the almost unquantifiable sum of dollars being created and I wonder where is the demand going to come from that can hope to absorb all of it and hence push it higher.

  • 10. Roger

    (03 February 2010, 01:26PM)  Complain about this comment

    Thinking that 2010 = 1929/1930 is a big misconception.

    2010 is way different from 1929/1930.

    The crisis in 1929/1930 had 0 effect outside US and a couple of countries in Europe. It is irrelevant to the rest of the world.

    In 2010, we have internet, humans are far better informed than before. We have a better incorporated global economy, where money can flow at an unprecedented scale, our money is no longer limited to the yellow metal. The reflection of wealth is much more on intelligence, creativity and better living environment.

  • 11. Alex

    (03 February 2010, 02:02PM)  Complain about this comment

    So gold again. You mention the $ strenthening, and that this does not bode well for other asset classes, except bizzarely Gold? I would say that one of the most exposed assets after oil to a stronger $ is gold.

    Combined with the refusal of physical buyers in India to accept gold prices much above $1000 I can see very few reasons at all for gold to head to $1400 let alone maintain a level price from here.

    If you will insist on perpetually telling people to buy gold at least tell them as well that they would be well advised to buy some cover using options, or short some gold stocks using CFDs or a spreadbet, otherwise people are going to be very exposed indeed.

  • 12. Jase

    (03 February 2010, 02:50PM)  Complain about this comment

    I think over time we will see all the currencies ebb and flow against each other as usual, but compared to commodities the fundamentals for the major western currencies look bleak as they all race to the bottom. I don't know what Gold will be doing in 3 months but ask me what it will be doing in 3-5 years and it seems pretty clear. Inflation is the likely way out of all this debt. We may see a deflation like the big de-leveraging of 08 but I would be happier with some precious metal on hand over paper as we head further into this mess.

  • 13. Andrew Moore

    (03 February 2010, 03:40PM)  Complain about this comment

    Just a quick thought - the graph reminds me more of the early 2000's rather than now.

    What was happening late 30's to the markets - my bets are on us going sideways for a few more years - before entering the soft sunshine of Spring!!

  • 14. Roberto Birquet

    (03 February 2010, 04:52PM)  Complain about this comment

    2010, we have internet, humans are far better informed than before. We have a better incorporated global economy, ...Ah, Roger. The good 'ole: it's different this time.

    I don't think ordinary people are better informed. Or if they are, that it makes any difference. People believe what they want to hear; whether it's 1930 or 2010. Animal spirits remain the same: history repeats itself; always has done.
    The main difference with 1930 is bigger government. Governments at least check history - albeit only when panic arises. Some will support it, some not, but it is different. I cannot be certain of the long-term propsects, but big government is stopping the world economy from sinking. The Chinese economy is booming but is based on enormous government support. It'll either work or delay the misery. I'm keeping gold.

  • 15. CrisisMaven

    (03 February 2010, 06:28PM)  Complain about this comment

    Yes that crash will have several reasons, one being discussed here: Safe Assets and Sore Surprises. There are at least five reasons: bad government debt - no one believes it'll ever be paid back in full. Ballooning money supply eventually resulting hyperinflation, the next real estate crisis, both in ARM mortgages aswell as commercial and multifamily homes/houses. New wave of insolvencies agfter the "stimili" have been wasted and expired. And banks eventually owning up to their bad debt and writing it down causing runs and breakdown etc.

  • 16. Extended Shelf Life

    (03 February 2010, 08:01PM)  Complain about this comment

    Roger - "The crisis in 1929/1930 had 0 effect outside US and a couple of countries in Europe. It is irrelevant to the rest of the world."
    Not true. It had a significant negative impact on commodities such as wheat, beef etc as demand dried up and was then followed by US protectionism. Countries like Argentina suffered and indeed have never really recovered.

  • 17. IJ

    (04 February 2010, 10:41AM)  Complain about this comment

    "Ah, Roger. The good 'ole: it's different this time."
    Well aren't you the wise one, Roberto. I actually think Roger made some good points, and there's no need to be patronising. So what you're saying, Roberto, is that because "history repeats itself; always has done", we're somehow due a carbon copy of the 30s? If so, why now? If history "always" repeats itself, why haven't we seen Great Depression 2 already? You seem to have a very Western angle on this. How many people in China or India are even having this discussion? The West doesn't have a monopoly on the world's "animal spirits". But you're wrong even in your observations of the world I assume you live in. New York today, with its full restaurants and bars, would be pretty unrecognisable to anyone who was around in the Depression. History repeats itself only in a very broad sense, as in periodically we have wars, economic slumps and so on, and for similar reasons. But the specifics are always very different.

  • 18. Roberto Birquet

    (05 February 2010, 08:37PM)  Complain about this comment

    IJ: Wrong even in my observations of the world I live in? New York, with its full restaurants and bars, would be unrecognisable to anyone around in the Depression.

    ME: As i said in my original post, there IS a difference this time, but that difference is not as Roger surmised: a better informed investor; but that governments are avoiding the problems of the past. The depression 30s animal spirits went the opposite direction of the 1920s overtly positive spirits. The mix -boom/bust - caused the Depression. Governments have recognised it and taken action. That's why your New York bars are so full - that and there's no prohibition today. you ask, If histroy repeats, why had it not happened since the 30s? We stopped believing in markets, and made sure it didn't (the 40s-70s golden age of demand management).
    But despite action in past year, the problem remains. huge debt is simply being converted from private sector to public. Either it fails or huge govt deficits - hold Gold.

  • 19. Wendy

    (07 February 2010, 04:51PM)  Complain about this comment

    I wish Frisby would address the above posts about our reluctance to trust any bullishness in gold in light of the strengthening dollar. I have followed your articles and usually you are really right on (or as close as anyone tends to get). Please comment. Thanks.

  • 20. alex

    (09 February 2010, 02:05PM)  Complain about this comment

    I think the bullishness around gold needs to be firmly set in it's historical context. During the oil crises of the late 70's leading to Golds famous ( short lived ) spike to $850.....you have to bear in mind that we were just 9 years on from the abandonment of the Bretton Woods agreement. It was obvious for people to look immeditely to gold. Especially in a world where it was far from clear who was to triumph eventually in the 'cold war', the US may very well have been annihilated by the USSR and vice versa.

    Today the world is very different, we are 40 yesars on from Bretton Woods, and the US $ is the currency of the undisputed ( for now ) global superpower.

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