Lloyds Bank – too bad for words?

By MoneyWeek editor-in-chief Merryn Somerset Webb Jul 16, 2010

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I'm reading Guy Deutscher's new book, Through The Language Glass. A beautifully written wander through linguistic history, it asks a central question: can you think of something for which you have no word? If Homer had no word for blue, so described the sea as "wine-dark", does that mean he couldn't see blue? I know this sounds entirely irrelevant. But I've been thinking about the way UK-based retail banks treat their clients, and wondering if there's a single word to describe their attitude. "Contempt" comes close, as do "disdain" and "disrespect". But they won't quite do, simply because none of these words contains the sense of tacked-on avarice that the retail banks give you. Nonetheless, I suspect that, just as Homer could mentally if not verbally discern the difference between various colours, there is barely a UK bank customer who doesn't know exactly what I am talking about.
 
I'm thinking of this thanks to an irritable phone call from my mother. She's banked with Lloyds all her life, as did her mother, grandmother and, until recently, her daughters. Last year she entrusted them with the proceeds from her French house; these went into a savings account paying 0.2%. She asked if there might be a better rate. She heard nothing. She called again. She was told there was nothing. Eventually she found an account paying 2.5%. She called to ask if she could have this. They said yes (with no explanation as to why no one had mentioned it before). Then they changed their minds. Why? Because the account was for new customers only. She saw another advertised – at 2% (ten times the rate she was getting). She called again. This time she was allowed to move her money. The process had taken seven months. This year, she asked Lloyds to move her money into sterling. They did. But did they give her a rate that reflected the amount she was transferring? Or her having been a customer for 50 years? Or even a mildly competitive rate? They did not. She got the same rate as a tourist changing €50 at the airport. So she complained. The reply? Customer services are sorry she is "unhappy". This is their "final response".

You'll say that my mother should have abandoned Lloyds long ago. But that misses the point. After decades of contact she trusted them to take care of her. They did not: instead they absolutely failed to offer an acceptable minimum level of service. My mother is still with Lloyds, on the basis that they won't listen to her complaints if she moves. I've pointed out that they aren't listening anyway and am making her move to First Direct. I've also some hope that the likes of Project New Bank might inject a new sense of customer care into the market. But, given that it will be buying Lloyds branches and staff, I'm not holding my breath.

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  • 1. sniffydog

    (17 July 2010, 10:25AM)  Complain about this comment

    My experience with Lloyds is similar. Depositing a reasonable sum attracted comments of an account with "special" interest rate. Result: absolute silence, and when prompted, ... there was nothing suitable on offer. Experience with business banking has been similar. When I met my Business Manager, he was wearing a rather dated grey suit, which I thought appropriate.....

  • 2. webcontrarian

    (17 July 2010, 09:59PM)  Complain about this comment

    All too typical - the trouble is it applies to most large organisations now. They all give the impression they want your money and don't want to hear about your concerns. So called "customer services" departments prevent you having any contact with the real organisation.

    Oddly, despite this being obvious to most people, we are still regularly told by politicians and journalists that public sector problems will be solved through the participation of the private sector. Or by using similar techniques to those used in the private sector. Whereas we really need accountability. Whether we'll ever get it may be another matter.

  • 3. Julian

    (19 July 2010, 12:20PM)  Complain about this comment

    I've had a very good experience with First Direct for 12years.

    I've had two bad experiences with Lloyds (well - my own and my wife's) on very similar disdain and excessive charging because of debited overdraft interest (after overdraft had been paid in full - the next months charges send the account overdrawn by a pound)

  • 4. Phil

    (05 September 2010, 10:36PM)  Complain about this comment

    I have been a customer of LlOYDS FOR nearly 30 years. My experience of their customer service over the yearsis similar to other postersd. The only thing that has stopped me leaving them is the perception that all the others are just as bad; i read recently that Santander, for example, has the highest level of customer complaints in the UK, followed by Barclays in second place. I was suprised that Lloyds wasn't higher on the league table! I have emailed the Lloyds customer service team twice now to try and get the much hyped mobile banking application to work on my phone. Lloyds also holds some incorrect personal details on my record which they are supplying to credit reference agencies. I have written to ask them to change these details twice in recent months without even a reply. Its a good job they dont take customer service for long term customers seriously. if they did I imagine they would be quite frustrated with themselves!

  • 5. Steve G

    (30 April 2012, 10:58PM)  Complain about this comment

    I had a 6 digit pin for Lloyds phone banking until they lost it and refused me access to my account. lloyds seem to delight in treating its customers with total distain. The complaints procedure is biased. The call centres are generally badly trained and have a poor ie bank oriented script. Waiting times are unaceptable. Oh and don't think you can speak to the Chief Exec - I'm told he does not do customers. Final point they are zero help to inventors and innovating SME's producing IP protected, global market manufactured products. Wake up and smell the coffee. You the banking industry got us into this mess at least do us the courtesy of allowing us in small R&D business to get us all out of your mess. I have put around 900k into R&D in the last three years with New Zealand investors (total £3 m and aiming at £100 M per year profit).

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