Forget France – Greece is the big worry for Europe today

By MoneyWeek Editor John Stepek Jan 16, 2012

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So France isn't a AAA-rated economy any more. Ah well.

But other than being yet another thing for Nicolas Sarkozy to get huffy about, how much does it matter?

In financial terms, not a lot. As usual, the ratings agencies are just catching up with the market. They're acting a bit faster than they did during the sub-prime mortgage crisis. But France hasn't been able to borrow at a AAA rate for a long time now.

There's a certain psychological significance to the downgrades, which we'll get to in a minute. But in terms of timing, S&P may have in fact done Europe a favour with Friday's swathe of downgrades.

It helped to distract everyone from the fact that Greece moved one step closer to the 'disorderly default' that everyone fears so much…

The Greek debt talks stall

While markets were waiting with bated breath on Friday for S&P to change its credit ratings to better reflect reality, talks between Greece and its creditors were going badly.

Here's what's going on. These are the PSI talks – private sector involvement. This is all about how big a loss ('haircut') private holders of Greek debt take on their loans. The idea is that holders will swap their existing Greek government bonds for new, 30-year bonds of lower value. About €100bn in Greek debt will be written off in the process.

The authorities want the deal to be voluntary. That way, Greece won't be considered to have defaulted. This avoids triggering credit default swap (CDS) insurance (which could be bad news for banks that have written this insurance). But it also means that non-private sector holders of Gree debt – such as the European Central Bank (ECB) – won't have to write down their own holdings.

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Much of the deal is agreed, according to reports. The sticking point is over what coupon (interest rate) the new bonds should pay. The private sector bondholders thought they had agreed to 5%. The IMF and other eurozone governments are pushing for a lower coupon. Depending on the exact figure, that could increase the haircut to more than 80%.

A deal really needs to be reached within the next week or so. Why the urgency? Because Greece needs a second bail-out package (part-funded by the IMF). The first instalment of this is due in March. Greece has to repay around €14.4bn in government debt on 20 March, so it's badly needed. However, the IMF isn't happy to sign off on the deal unless the haircut has been agreed by then.


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So what happens next?

Chances are, a deal will be reached. But the longer this drags on for, the bigger the risk that it won't. There's only so much of a haircut the private sector will take before the prospect of pinning their hopes on a CDS pay-out starts to look attractive.

And from a German perspective, a Greek default might actually be politically popular. This is where we come to the psychological impact of S&P's decisions. Germany is now the only stable AAA-rated sovereign in the eurozone. Correctly or not, that gives the country every incentive to feel that its 'austerity-first' stance is the right one.

In German news magazine Der Spiegel, Hans-Werner Sinn of the influential Ifo Institute says: "When it comes to Greece, it's clear that it's hopeless. It would be better for the country to finally leave the euro and transform its foreign debts to drachma, than to constantly beg for new aid and set itself up for lasting charity."

Perhaps the most complicated issue of all is what would happen to the ECB if Greece went bust. The ECB has been acting as an incredibly forgiving pawnbroker to the most troubled banks in the eurozone. Basically, it will accept troubled debt like Greek bonds and lend out hard cash in return.

If it turns out that those loans can't be repaid and the collateral backing them is dud, then the ECB could end up having to be recapitalised. In other words, it'd be bust itself, and Europe's taxpayers would have to cough up to raise funds for it. As Der Speigel points out, Germany is on the hook for 27% of "such capital injections." But they might consider that a worthwhile price to pay, given that it might draw a line under their commitments.

It doesn't help matters that even if the deal is done, Greece still looks unsalvageable. This haircut will leave Greece with a 120% debt-to-GDP ratio… by 2020. Given that a ratio above 90% is generally seen as bad news for growth, the idea that this is any kind of solution just looks like wishful thinking.

European stocks are starting to look cheap

It all adds up to another fraught week for the eurozone. What's interesting though is that the more intelligent fund management groups are starting to nibble at Europe. Ben Inker at US group GMO (home to the well-respected Jeremy Grantham) notes that "it's hard to buy Europe today, when there's so much uncertainty and despondency." However, "Europe ex-UK stocks are a particularly attractive asset class, because they're cheap."

We'll be looking at cheap stocks on offer in Europe in an upcoming issue of MoneyWeek magazine (If you're not already a subscriber, get your first three copies free here). However, as I noted last week, I suspect Europe can still get cheaper if there are any more nasty surprises.

Inker notes that GMO likes another cheap developed market, which I can definitely get behind: Japan. My colleague Merryn Somerset Webb interviewed Japan fund manager John Paul Temperley recently about the best ways to invest in the country.

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  • 1. Kirschberg

    (16 January 2012, 11:36AM)  Complain about this comment

    If/when Greece goes what will happen to the EURO? Will it rise because the rotten apple is gone and the markets focus again on the terrible state of the dollar? Or will the fear of a domino effect (PIIS - G gone) and general chaos send it crashing? Let's hope for an eventual Northern Euro. May come quicker than anyone expects.

  • 2. Matt

    (16 January 2012, 12:21PM)  Complain about this comment

    @Kirschberg In the short term there would be chaos. However my question is if Greece left the euro wouldn't it mean that they would not pay their loans anyway? Consequently causing the ECB into turmoil and the euro into near collapse?
    I believe that Greece's debts are around the £320 billion. Which would be more than half of ECB's lending capacity. The chaos would arise because lenders would be scared if another country collapsed which is a likely possibility as it would increase recession within the EU and other countries. You'll also find that insurance companies that have underwritten the loans will become insolvent.. Literally it would be disastrous!!

  • 3. Boris MacDonut

    (16 January 2012, 01:40PM)  Complain about this comment

    So Greece defaults on 30% of its debt. Ireland is in even worse shape carrying external debt of 1,230% of GDP,Luxembourg has debt of 35 times GDP!! Kirschberg,the problem has spun far beyond the original PIGS. Italy is now the only Eurozone country reducing it' s debt, from 120% to 118% of GDP in the past year. France and Belgium have joined the panic and Austria (heavily exposed to the failed Hungarian economy) is in the mire too. Time for a new acronym. I like PISBAFL. Or if Italy stays floundering PIFLBIAS.

  • 4. Matt

    (16 January 2012, 02:05PM)  Complain about this comment

    Okay so the likelihood that Greece will be bailed out, once again, is quite high. Personally i cannot see that the EU will allow a disorderly removal of Greece.
    However how long can this go on for? What are your opinions in the long term? Personally the EU will have to let go of some of the countries that are increasing their debt levels? It can't go on for another 5 years or whenever the economy decides to pick back up?

    What are your views?

  • 5. JAW

    (16 January 2012, 03:58PM)  Complain about this comment

    Don't worry about Greece, yes it may default but it won't leave the EU, and nothing much will affect the Euro because it is one of the world's strongest currencies. It is forever.

    Compare the situation to the US... several Sates are bankrupt and will soon default because the Federal Govt won't bail them out. Will they leave the Union? Absolutely not. Will the dollar collapse when they go bust? Absolutely not. Same principle with Greece and the Euro.

    The "crisis" in Europe is over-hyped, especially by 'economics scribblers' who are really little more than part of the entertainment business. What's the big deal about recession? 1 or 2 or 4% decline in GDP is minute compared to the spectacular growth over the last century.

    Central Banks that electronically create their own currency can't go bust. The crisis?... the fix is in, money creation by the back door will slowly inflate all debts away. Sure, a little stagflation, so what? Just be patient. Give default a chance.

  • 6. Matt

    (16 January 2012, 05:48PM)  Complain about this comment

    @JAW..

    I agree it's all over sensetionalised and the stock market is run on 90% emotion as oppose to the real world. There is no denying though that there will be chaos in the markets and news.

    What do you think will happen to the main banks? Do you think they will survive?

  • 7. Boris MacDonut

    (16 January 2012, 10:20PM)  Complain about this comment

    #5 Excellent post JAW. I fully concur.The parallel with the USA is very good, however I have heard rumblings that California may seek to cede from the union in the next couple of decades.Also the reconquest of the "Old Mexico" is moving forward with every generation.Vast bits of the southern US now has a majority Hispanic population.The USA is more likely to split than the EU.
    #6.Matt. I have always thought RBS will ultimately be broken up to get something back for the taxpayer,while one or two French and Austrian banks should crumble shortly.

  • 8. Klaus Kastner

    (16 January 2012, 11:22PM)  Complain about this comment

    I fail to understand why a Greek default followed by an orderly debt rescheduling would be such a terrible thing for Greece or for the world. As the Chief Economist of Citibank recently said: “Europeans didn’t know that outside of Europe reschedulings have come a dime per dozen in recent decades”. The price which a borrower has to pay for a default is that his creditworthiness is wrecked and that he won’t be able to return to capital markets in the foreseeable future. Greece has already paid that price.

    Greece would have to make sure that she does not become perceived has having provoked the default and that she becomes perceived as negotiating an orderly debt rescheduling in good faith. This should allow the EU to provide bridge-financing for the budget and current account deficits. Details below.

    http://klauskastner.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-so-much-fear-of-default.html

  • 9. Critic Al Rick

    (16 January 2012, 11:56PM)  Complain about this comment

    @ 5. JAW

    '... money creation by the back door will slowly inflate all debts away.'

    It probably will; some of the consequences being an example of 'life ain't fair' ... undeserved strife to savers and pensioners and, in due course, their inheritors . But I doubt it will solve the deficit problems ... that solution, I envisage, will entail a significant drop in so-called living standards for the majority in the West and a very significant decrease in the public sector; you can probably forget about real growth.

    Not solving the deficit problems will not bring a sustainable solution to the national debt problems.

    The 'crisis' , in my humble opinion, is not over-hyped, it is under appreciated in its severity by all but a very few. Human nature being what it is, I can't see a happy ending to the 'crisis'; short of a miracle, we're 'stuffed'.

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