The time-bomb ticking under Britain's house prices

By MoneyWeek editor-in-chief Merryn Somerset Webb Mar 18, 2011

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Last week, one dull-looking number emerged that might have a profound effect on UK monetary policy. It came from Legal & General and it is this: around 90% of all mortgages held in the UK come with a variable rather than a fixed rate of interest. That's up from 60% in 2007.

You can understand why this might be. The best five-year fixed-rate mortgages on the market cost 4.5%. But the best variable rate mortgages come in at as little as 2%. On a 20-year repayment mortgage of £150,000, that makes a difference of £200 a month.

So, it makes sense that most people choose the cheaper looking option. You might hope, however, that those who choose such risk over certainty do so knowingly, having run through the risks they will face if the UK base rate rises from its 340-year low of 0.5% to something that is more of a reflection of our inflation rate.

But you would hope in vain if a survey from Shelter is to be believed: it says one in four mortgage holders has no idea what the UK base rate is.

Either way, the idea that 90% of mortgage holders will be hit by rate rises matters.

Why? Because while there is some evidence that there might be some kind of UK recovery under way (JP Morgan is claiming to see a mini boom in UK manufacturing), the housing market remains a miserable husk of its former self. Prices are down 15% or so from their peaks in nominal terms and a good 20%-plus in inflation-adjusted terms, while every leading indicator suggests that the falls have only just begun.


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First, look at affordability ratios. These are disregarded by bulls as being irrelevant in the days of dual-earning households and ultra-low rates. However, it is dangerous to dismiss historical norms as irrelevant. The long-term average house price to salary ratio is something in the region of three and a half to four times. Today, depending on whom you listen to, it is around five and a half to six times.

That's the kind of disparity that can only be resolved by one of two things: rising real incomes or falling real house prices. Resolution isn't coming from the former – the retail price index is running at 5.1%, but wage settlements were a mere 2.8% in the three months to January. That leaves the latter.

Anyone in any real doubt that this will happen (and there are still bulls out there) need only look at all the numbers that house prices tend to track.

There is net mortgage lending growth. December numbers showed that at just 1.4%. Then there are mortgage approvals. These are now around 45,000 a month, down from nearly 130,000 a month in 2006.

Next up is consumer confidence – something house prices have always followed very carefully. This is looking pretty ropey both statistically (the GfK Consumer Confidence is at its lowest since March 2009) and anecdotally.

In the name of research, I spent much of the last week standing on cold street corners asking passers-by about their debt: every single person I spoke to was either out of debt and never touching it again or desperately trying to get rid of what they had. On Monday, it took me the entire morning just to find someone who actually still used their overdraft facility. No confidence there.

Finally, note the disappearance of first-time buyers. There are 90% fewer of them than there were at the height of the bubble and their average age is now 37.

We hear much about the return of 90% and 95% mortgages. But I have yet to hear of a first-time buyer who has managed to persuade a bank to give them one.

That means there is still no demand at the bottom of the market and explains, I should think, why housing expert Henry Pryor is predicting that only one in three of the houses currently on the market will sell this year.

All this suggests that something will soon push the market over the edge.

That something could be the first interest rate rise. According to Legal & General Investment Management, a rise in the base rate and hence in variable mortgage rates will mean that huge numbers of consumers will see "a meaningful impact to their cash flow".

Shelter goes further. The Bank of England hasn't raised rates for 25 months, but when it does, says the charity, it could push those assuming that low rates are forever into a "spiral of debt and repossession".

That really wouldn't help the bull case for house prices much.

It is also why Mervyn King is doing all he can to resist a rate rise.

• This article was first published in the Financial Times

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  • 1. cornishtinmine

    (18 March 2011, 10:48AM)  Complain about this comment

    Perhaps Mervyn has a large BTL portfolio which he is currently having difficulty disposing of?

  • 2. cornishtinmine

    (18 March 2011, 10:54AM)  Complain about this comment

    I'm sure many people have got so used to the low rates and have already committed the rest of their monthly income... even a modest rise will come as a shock, particularly with food and utility costs going up...

  • 3. Alex

    (18 March 2011, 11:34AM)  Complain about this comment

    Just the usual - stating the obvious.

  • 4. JustaWeasel

    (18 March 2011, 11:44AM)  Complain about this comment

    Property owners want to believe that prices will go up. Savers want to believe that deposit rates will go up.
    Will £ savers ever get a break or should we all be borrowers?
    We can't all "get lucky" all the time so, who will be lucky next?
    Perhaps just those making the rules as they will know what to do in good time....as usual!!

  • 5. Forever hopeful

    (18 March 2011, 11:46AM)  Complain about this comment

    Your logic seems sound and I hope you are correct Merryn.

    I resisted pressure to buy when levels seemed to be sailing beyond my means forever. Those who did pile in and helped inflate the bubble have been saved by the BoE.

    Those who have tried to cut our cloth according to our means have to a great extent been left behind as a result.

    Politically it will be horrendous for the Conservatives if a crash happens on their watch. The cause would be put down to the spending cuts and not people's lack of self-control.

    If the Conservatives claim to stand for anything it must be for people without a genuine need for welfare making their own luck - the flip side being that they should take responsibility for their own circumstances.

    So, having given time to those who have over-extended themselves to get their house in order, now the state aid should cease and let market forces correct themselves.

  • 6. A

    (18 March 2011, 12:35PM)  Complain about this comment

    We are still waiting for the correction in the housing market that started in 2008 and should have been allowed to continue. Where we live in outer London house prices last year got back up to peak 2007 levels! We need to get back to realistic house price to salary ratios rather than encouraging people to take on huge mortgages on the basis of them being affordable (just) because of low interest rates. Come on BoE you need to have courage and allow this correction to take place rather than rewarding the cavalier borrower.

  • 7. Surferking

    (18 March 2011, 12:59PM)  Complain about this comment

    All these articles need context and without discussing the rental sector this is only half a story.

    Who cares what the owner-occupier sector is doing, its all relative personal circumstances and the majority of people purchase or rent a property for its utility, not as an investment or bet on the market.

    Its all great news for landlords though as all this just pushes rents up since most private landlords are in property for the very long term and probably only sell on retirement or death. Personally my property rents have gone up 10% in the last 2 years without even asking, its just the going rates. I have all tracker mortgages and the rents will all track the mortgages.

    The less properties built due to lack of financing, the more demand there is for the existing properties to rent.

  • 8. Surferking

    (18 March 2011, 01:00PM)  Complain about this comment

    As a publication directed to investors the main attention to house prices should be directed to yield which is coming back to 8 to 10% in many areas. Only amateur property flippers were interested in the boom times but that was just a high R:R gamble some won and thought they were very clever, some lost and are now stuck or have learnt a lesson and re-evaluated with a longer term perspective now.

    As a property investor lower sale prices just mean a higher yield. If you're so sensitive to the normal UK market peaks and troughs then its not the right investment for you anyway.

    Of course property is such a localised market almost all generalisations are useless, experienced investors should know their local market inside-out by speaking to the professionals and clients in the area.

    Caveat emptor

  • 9. ontheotherhand

    (18 March 2011, 01:57PM)  Complain about this comment

    Why aren't the banks encouraging customers to move to tempting fixed rate deals and get protected from defaults when rates rise? The issue is not just that fixed rate is more expensive per month, but that they are such poor value for money and are so short compared to the 30 year fixed rate a consumer can get in the US. If a fixed rate costs more than double per month more at 2.5% more, then I will only be worse off on a floating deal for possible future months when interest rates have risen more than 2.5%. Can anyone see that happening in the next 2 years? What a rip off product. I'm sure they lay these 5 year fixed deals off on the market at a huge profit.

  • 10. Larry levin

    (18 March 2011, 02:00PM)  Complain about this comment

    I am not sure the float /fix calculation is as simple as this article makes out people who fixed a few years ago missed out when base rates fell to the floor, also alot of base rate trackers are base rate +2.5%, so an increase in base rates wont have much effect, while rates have been low many people have tried to make overpayments to reduce outstanding balances. I wonder why no one has created a product which uses option selling to lower the premiums on mortgages.

  • 11. Nazb

    (18 March 2011, 02:43PM)  Complain about this comment

    I dont think this pridiction is at all accurate

    The inflation problem is largely due to the availability of cheap credit.

    There is still too much disposable income being wasted.

    Increasing interest rates is correct. Government could stop the greedy bankers paying out nothing to savers while overcharging on borrowers.

    Whether individuals default with house payments is a function of how far they they were seduced by irresponsible lending by the banks.

    Everything has to come back down to reality, otherwise it will once again collapse in a big way.

    Interest rates used to controll the dangerous effects of inflation, is the correct approach. Banks should be now paying for this imbalance

    Its about time we stopped thinking about the dammed house prices and got back to sensible economics, The house prices will adjust naturally back to affordability values and hence the economy will once again be as before.

  • 12. Ellen

    (18 March 2011, 02:53PM)  Complain about this comment

    If the BoE had raised rates very slowly from the end of last year, the housing market could have deflated slowly and give people time to sell their homes if they need to. The refusal to lift the emergency interest rate is going to take out lots of people all at once when rates do start to rise. And if the rate rises are steep far too many properties are going to hit the market at the same time forcing many more repossessions than is necessary and the longer the rate is left unchanged, the worse its going to get. I think keeping the base rate at 0.5% for so long sacrifices the many to save the few.

  • 13. Mike

    (18 March 2011, 03:23PM)  Complain about this comment

    @7. Lack of supply does not increase demand. Lack of supply, well, limits supply.

    Surely, demand will at best stay the same, where is the extra demand coming from. With increase in tuition fees more young people will live at home and the Tories have pledged to limit immigration. These should both be a drag on demand

    Plus, in economic terms demand will fall as Housing Benefit is limited to the 30th percentile. Though I have no idea how surveyors (or whoever) is going to find the 30th percentile and it could be an argument that the 30th percentile rent is in practice the same as the current level i.e. the median.

  • 14. Mike

    (18 March 2011, 03:24PM)  Complain about this comment

    There is also quite a lot of pent up supply. I live in Croydon. There are 250 flats stood empty in Altitude 25, now owned by AIB. Croydon council accepted that planning permission could be changed on around 60 of these to allow them to be used as 'service apartments' as there was "insufficient demand" for them as flats. This permission was granted in 2008 (from memory) and lasts for 4 years.

    At some point there will need to be a liquidation of this and much more unused housing stock.

    Supply is being falsely constrained, as the banks and now the government are on the hook and don't want to see a deflationary spiral. How long can this be kept going for?

  • 15. Judy Pallant

    (18 March 2011, 03:24PM)  Complain about this comment

    Low interest rates mean low pensions for those of us at retirement age - and as we ourselves have not taken part in the property bonanza, but have bought a house that we could afford we are losing out all the way.

    But if the younger generation cannot afford to buy homes until they are about 37, or are stuck with having to pay increasing rents, who will have the babies that will grow up to look after the current 50 year olds when they reach old age?

    The government and the Bank of England absolutely must start thinking of future needs and the demographics involved. In my opinion it's about a lot more than who is making a clever profit and who is not. The birth rate now affects the future health and wealth of the country much more profoundly.

  • 16. Sparkiedog

    (18 March 2011, 03:25PM)  Complain about this comment

    Prices will amble along, maybe falling a few % here or there and will only show meaningful falls when interest rates rise by at least 1%. My fear is that this rise of 1% will not happen for the next 10 years.

    Every natural disaster or bad piece of economic news will give ammo to Mervyn to keep rates where they are. Look at Japan, its around 20 years now that they've almost 0% rates after a similar credit expansion.

    Those praying for price falls could be very disappointed. Time to get on with life and accept that the Govt/BoE will do everything in their power for as long as possible to prevent a collapse...

  • 17. Sibley

    (18 March 2011, 03:35PM)  Complain about this comment

    Prices around my way (Maidstone) are dropping fast. Unfortunately if mortgage rates go up I'll strugle to be able to keep up the repayments. Throw in a bit of negative equity and I'm well and truly stuffed!

  • 18. Andy

    (18 March 2011, 07:26PM)  Complain about this comment

    Sparkiedog - yes but despite 0% interest rates property prices in Japan have also fallen by 70%. Here they have not . . . well not yet anyway.

    Please don't forget we live in a capitalist society, and one where consumer is king. The market (any market) responds to what buyers want. Buyers control all markets and not sellers. A few years back with cheap and easy credit buyers were prepared to stretch themselves and their finances to get onto that ladder (allowing sellers to ask for higher prices).

    Now however buyers are much more cautious and so like it or lump it, the market will eventually respond accordingly and - you guessed it, down we go!

  • 19. Lyrical

    (18 March 2011, 07:37PM)  Complain about this comment

    What a mess central banks have made and continue to make by playing with interest rates and loose monetary policy to create fake growth. They seek to cheat reality and double guess the market but in fact destabilize to no one's benefit but the feckless and the reckless.

    Does anyone believe rates are going up above inflation any time soon. Those buying variable rate mortgages may not know what they do but the Government will probably ensure they will never learn. So what's the difference.

  • 20. PV70

    (18 March 2011, 08:41PM)  Complain about this comment

    Surferking, I for one won't agree for a significant rent increase. My rent has stayed the same for the last three years. My landlord wanted to increase it last year but I told the letting agents I'd rather move. I have a certain budget and won't be over-stretching myself.

    As many renters are subsidised by local council and their benefits will soon be cut, it will be interesting to see what the impact on the rental market is going to be like. In current climate of ever-increasing unemployment, I doubt all the landlords will be able to find professional tenants to replace those who no longer afford to rent their properties.

    I sold my flat at the top in October 2007. I will buy once it is actually more cost-effective than renting, provided I get a mortgage of course.

  • 21. The Clueless One

    (18 March 2011, 08:58PM)  Complain about this comment

    Interest Rates are primarily set by Supply & Demand, not just Inflation. When demand for Credit is low, rates are set low to increase borrowing, when demand for credit is high that is what pushes rates up which in turn cools the economy. What we are seeing here is a Deflationary Depression, the fact that rates did not go this low in the Great Depression indicates that what we are now entering will be far deeper than the Great Depression. Cash will soon be king in this environment even if it is not earning any Interest.

  • 22. No less clueless

    (18 March 2011, 09:53PM)  Complain about this comment

    I disagree with you Clueless but maybe only in detail. Unless China in particular crashes for a decade, which is entirely possible, I think we are in a secular bull for commodities and a rebalancing from West to East. The West is now tied into this as a best case scenario. We will see bipolar inflation. Commodity and consumer price inflation but wage and house deflation. Demand for credit may be low but an absurdly low base rate and QE for me are messing with the system so much who can tell.

  • 23. Bob Roberts

    (19 March 2011, 04:12AM)  Complain about this comment

    I do not believe there is any intention by the BOE to raise IRs this year or for most of next year.

    I don't see even a 0.5% IR rise until mid 2012 and what will 0.5% actually mean for people? Nothing.

  • 24. JAW

    (19 March 2011, 12:52PM)  Complain about this comment

    The time-bomb ticking away under UK property prices seems to have an indeterminate fuse? Bill Bonner has raised his 'crash alert' flag three times recently... only quietly to have had to take it down. Merryn's and Bill's economic forecasting model is very sound, everything indicates a property and equity crash should have occurred by now... but it hasn't. Puzzling?

    Everyone expected that property prices would crash in Greece, Portugal, Italy, Ireland... but they haven't. A roofless cottage on half an acre in Co Kerry is still being marketed at 500,000 euros.

    Unforced seller resistance to mark down prices is huge and underestimated. Repossessed properties often end up in auctions which are currently half empty of buyers compared to the feverish competing crowds of 2006. A moderate crash will come, but only when the percentage of forced sellers increases dramatically. That won't be this year, perhaps in 2012? By 2014-15 prices will again be rising.

  • 25. Jonathan Roberts

    (19 March 2011, 12:59PM)  Complain about this comment

    The bigger shock will be that around 37% of all mortgages with less than 90% equity will be by people who have lied (overstated) their income on to get many more multiples of their salary as a self certified mortgage than they should have.

  • 26. The Clueless One

    (19 March 2011, 04:32PM)  Complain about this comment

    My Layman analysis of this is that our inflation is being imported through foreign monetary expansion. The inflation we see is not home-grown. The very definition of inflation means an expansion is the supply of credit which places upward pressure on demand of goods and hence pushes prices up. Any change upwards in the banks base rate would change nothing, because it is not home-grown monetary expansion caused by low rates which is driving prices up, the high prices are coming from abroad which BoE policy has no control over. All they can do is keep rates as low as possible to encourage the borrowing of more money. The entire system is a Pyramid, where new money is borrowed from Central Banks to pay off old loans, the system has been working fine for a couple of hundred years. We are now seeing the beginning of the end of that system. The demand for Credit is so low the bank has no choice but to keep rates low in the hope that more money will be borrowed and enter into the system.

  • 27. Bob Roberts

    (19 March 2011, 04:41PM)  Complain about this comment

    I take your point Joanthan about the mortgages but as long as IRs stay low those people are sitting pretty.

    The bottom line is that the only people who have lost out are those who did not buy prior to 2005. Everyone who did buy is able to either remain in their house or ask ludicrous prices for them.

    How we have not had a US, Spanish or Irish property crash is beyond me. The economy is in a mess. If anything, the public sector job areas of the UK are holding up better than the private sector dominated areas.

  • 28. The Clueless One

    (19 March 2011, 04:59PM)  Complain about this comment

    My Layman analysis of this is that our inflation is being imported through foreign monetary expansion. The inflation we see is not home-grown. The very definition of inflation means an expansion is the supply of money which places upward pressure on demand of goods and hence pushes prices up. Any change upwards in the banks base rate would change nothing, because it is not home-grown monetary expansion caused by low rates which is driving prices up, the high prices are coming from abroad which BoE policy has no control over. All they can do is keep rates as low as possible to encourage the borrowing of more money. The entire system is a Pyramid, where new money is borrowed from Central Banks to pay off old loans, the system has been working fine for a couple of hundred years. We are now seeing the beginning of the end of that system. The demand for Credit is so low the bank has no choice but to keep rates low in the hope that more money will be borrowed and enter into the system.

  • 29. William

    (20 March 2011, 02:36PM)  Complain about this comment

    The government better do something about this house price situation soon. At the university I graduate from this year there is a growing sense that the younger generation are being completely screwed over to support the mistakes and selfish greed of the older generation.

    Lets face it at the moment you leave university to no jobs. If you are lucky to get a job then it will cost a fortune in petrol or rail fairs to get into work. Then there's a massive student loan to pay back. Plus greedy landlords are trying to siphon as much money from younger tenants as they possibly can, leaving them with absolutely no hope of saving for a deposit on an overpriced property.

    Frustration is currently bubbling away under the surface but once increased tuition fees start to kick in then we will see a backlash mark my words. Property prices need to come down soon to give this country a future. It's no good just offering easier credit, it's the high prices that are the problem.

  • 30. Supermarine Blues

    (20 March 2011, 03:28PM)  Complain about this comment

    The reason we've not has a property crash is that the market is that repos are being 'managed' by the banks; thus, they can show 'good' loans to an invented company rather than bad loans.

    The over-restrictive mortgage lending means that buyer demand is virtually non-existent, since there are no first-time buyers. This is partly another ruse to allow the banks to lend absolutely nothing.

    Yes, it's another fix/fraud/call it what you like. It will delay but also exacerbate the inevitable.

  • 31. No less clueless

    (20 March 2011, 08:05PM)  Complain about this comment

    If the UK puts up rates, GBP would attract capital flows pushing up the value of Sterling and reducing the impact of imported inflation. So for me the distinctions the BoE likes to make on inflation are a little disingenuous. But Mervyn will not raise rates and George will ignore his letters because they think that would banjax growth in the UK economy. I think the impact of this is overrated in what is still primarily a service economy and regardless we are supposed to be competing globally on quality not cost. We will only see rates rise if the BoE sees wage price spiral inflation and in the age cuts in the public sector and global labour market in the private sector, I don't think employees have much leverage to demand salary rises.

  • 32. The Clueless One

    (21 March 2011, 11:05AM)  Complain about this comment

    No Less, agreed sterling would get a boost, but is that what the BoE really desire ? It would supress exports and place a bigger burden on those in debt and paying Interest. Looking at the bigger picture it would also reduce energy / import prices. Its a trade-off between getting those in debt to pay more Interest thus boosting value of the currency or an increase in Inflation with lower interest being paid by the indebted. A fine game of balance. Increasing rates now would have damaging effect on growth. But having said that the BoE should have an eye on the future because inflation can be like a nuclear reactor, you can let it overheat for a bit, but once it goes past a certain tipping point then its almost impossible to contain and drastic measures are required to cool it, in this case an extreme shift upwards in rates which would be more damaging long-term than a slow gradual rate increase.

  • 33. Kieran

    (21 March 2011, 12:35PM)  Complain about this comment

    Judy Pallant,

    Couldn't agree more but we have politicians who only think as far as the next election......

  • 34. Brian Templeton

    (22 March 2011, 05:12AM)  Complain about this comment

    Just after the war, when my father returned home after military service, he bought a new semi-detached house in Poole, Dorset,
    for about 500 pounds, while he was working as an ordinary blue
    collar labourer at a coal gas production plant. His net weekly wage was five pound seven shillings. In other words, the price of
    the common three bedroom house for an unskilled blue collar
    worker was about 95 times the weekly net wage. I believe that
    until the Govt./BofE. will once again accept this wage/price
    ratio, that the residential market will remain unstable, particularly as many of the population retire.

  • 35. John Brown

    (22 March 2011, 10:16AM)  Complain about this comment

    I feel some of the problems of the last 40 years are
    JOINT INCOMES whilst it is great that men and women can have careers, house prices were based orignally on one persons income, for a while that helped purchase a larger better house then you could normally afford, end result ? your running to stand still , everybody pushing up house prices which ultimately puts financial pressure on the sole income when children come along
    SECURED LOANS for car purchases holidays, if only mortgages were for houses then perhaps there would be less problems
    NO CAPITAL GAINS TAX ON HOUSES makes houses very attractive everybody thinks they are getting something for nothing
    PRICES based on the average young person income in my area around 16 k per year with two people working thats 32 k per year three times that = 96 k ....that should be the cost of a one / two bedroom flat, in reality prices are 120 k - 150 k CRAZY

  • 36. Unrepentant

    (22 March 2011, 05:03PM)  Complain about this comment

    Nobody has mentioned the tacit collusion between the Government, the BoE and the retail banking sector, which is allowing banks to vastly increase the spreads between loan and savings interest, thus penalising both savers and borrowers, while the banks make big profits and rebuild their balance sheets.
    When we start to see these spreads narrowing (regardless of the nominal BoE base rate) we will start seeing demand for property returning and the market stabilising.

  • 37. Glenbo

    (22 March 2011, 07:58PM)  Complain about this comment

    I agree that the future looks extremely poor for those hoping for house price increases but it will impact many others who have lived less adventurous lives with their finances too. For instance how many of us will be prepared for the next stage of intervention which I believe could well take the form of debt write off. When the housing market rolls over I think the government will create a scenario where people are invited to apply for a partial write off of debt with a formula stating that if you were given a mortgage of more than your income could reasonably support you can have the excess cancelled. This will obviously rile lots of people who dont qualify and the poor taxpayers that will once again have to refinace the under pressure banking system. This will again mean the cautious paying for the profligate but I dont think the government will allow the market to fail without trying something this radical.

  • 38. The Clueless One

    (23 March 2011, 08:50AM)  Complain about this comment

    Glenbo you could be correct, massive Government Intervention costing the taxpayer a fortune... and then prices will collapse anyway........

  • 39. NickT, Alderhot

    (26 March 2011, 09:38AM)  Complain about this comment

    Merryn

    This is a good read. However, events change and so do tax regimes. Do you think Ian Cowie's piece in the Telegraph Online is accurate? It seems reasonable to me that if Pension Funds are able to tax-efficiently invest in domestic property, UK house prices will continue to rise - with everything that rising house prices entails.

    See:
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/ianmcowie/100009899/hidden-boost-for-house-prices-in-the-budget/

    Thanks

    Nick

  • 40. Greg, Marlow

    (26 March 2011, 12:41PM)  Complain about this comment

    I thought the Conservative party generally believed in free-market economics, but here they are intervening in an attempt to prop up an ailing property market (like the previous Government) with their First Buy scheme.

    Lenders are requiring 25% deposits for a reason: because they are worried house prices might fall by up to this amount. Offering 20% interest-free loans does not improve affordability as the Chancellor claims, but is an attempt to increase demand and hence keep prices at current levels.

    Surely it is irresponsible for the Government to encourage people to over-expose themselves given that all economic indicators suggest prices might fall, and an improper use of tax-payers' money?

  • 41. Greg, Marlow

    (26 March 2011, 12:42PM)  Complain about this comment

    .... Requiring 25% deposits is sensible for both lenders and the housing market, as it should dampen demand at the bottom end and encourage prices to drop and therefore improve affordability.

    Government attempts (such as this scheme) to increase demand without increasing supply (eg by raising interest rates to create a few more forced sales) will just further inflate the bubble and cause yet more problems down the line...

  • 42. jrj90620

    (26 March 2011, 04:22PM)  Complain about this comment

    I guess it's the same everywhere.Citizens worshiping govt and expecting govt to solve all the problems.That's the mess we're in here in the U.S.Seems like the same in the UK.So govt tries to solve all short term problems and ends up creating larger long term problems.Citizens never figure this out and just keep voting for the next politician that promises them something for nothing.The only thing a person can do is to take advantage of the situation the best you can.You sure can't change the big picture.

  • 43. ACM

    (27 March 2011, 12:29PM)  Complain about this comment

    Food. Of course Moneyweek is all about money, but it is the future availability of food that frightens me. Not just crop failure/climate change but loss of bees in so called 'developed' countries - so 'developed' that they have lost all sense of reality over that which sustains. It's no good waiting for government/BoE to help out there because they never have the answers - just words and meddling, neither of which are edible [nor is gold in a crisis]. Incredibly, it was both the New Agers AND moneymen [Jim Mellon/Al Chalabi, 'Wake-up!'] who advised years ago that one type of house will hold in value - one [not too big] that comes with a bit of land near a small town or village.


  • 44. Phillip D

    (28 March 2011, 11:51AM)  Complain about this comment

    I don't understand how raising interest rates and dampening house price growth will help anyone. I can't even believe that a rates rise will dampen inflation. Inflation seems to be driven by oil prices, driving up transport costs, driving up commodity prices and also rising energy prices. We are all being asked to tighten our belts, yet the banks, energy companies and supermarkets are maintaining if not increasing profits! Surely there is something drastically wrong, when huge profits are being made off the back of recession.
    Property prices have decreased about 25% throughout the country, it's only London that's bucking the trend, and that's because there is a scarcity of property.

  • 45. Toby

    (28 March 2011, 02:07PM)  Complain about this comment

    Surferking - in your post (way back at no. 7!) you state "...the majority of people purchase or rent a property for its utility, not as an investment or bet on the market". I'm sure that's correct - it's how most people view the housing market. However:

    (1) Why do housebuyers adopt this approach when it's not logical. E.g. how many consumers only consider a car's "utility" when buying. I'm sure they balance the car's price against the utility derived (eg a Ferrari or other luxury brand would offer lots of "utility"!). Price is (or should be) everything - and hopefully this will become clearer in time; and

    (2) Won't the "utility" derived adapt when house prices start dropping more quickly. Suddenly the warm cosy glow of buying, or continuing to hold, will be replaced by the fear of making a capital loss (especially the fear of making a larger loss the longer one continues to hold). "Utility" derived may give way to the more powerful force of Fear...

  • 46. Toby

    (28 March 2011, 03:07PM)  Complain about this comment

    Surferking - your post (way back at number 7!) states: "...the majority of people purchase or rent a property for its utility, not as an investment or bet on the market". I'm sure that's correct - it's how most people view the housing market. However:

    (1) Isn't this an illogical approach? E.g. how many consumers only consider the "utility" offered by a car when deciding whether to buy. They balance utility versus price (eg a Ferrari or other luxury brand would offer lots of "utility"!). I'm sure the logic of paying heed to price will come back in due course;

    (2) Won't the "utility" derived reduce as house prices dip. The warm cosy glow of buying - or holding - houses will be replaced by the fear of making a capital loss (esp. the fear of making a larger loss the longer one holds). "Utility" derived may give way to the more powerful force of Fear...

  • 47. Louise

    (29 March 2011, 05:33PM)  Complain about this comment

    24. JAW

    House price rises 2014 - no way.

    They will fall for approx. 5 years, then flat for 10 years. Late '80s again but worse.

    Interest rate rises this summer (after May elections!) due to inflationary pressures, the cuts kick in, huge unemployment and we did not have the rise of the East 25 years ago; competition for resources and the price of their 'cheap' products rising accordingly. Also, Middle East unrest (suppliers), Japan's tragic problems (suppliers), the Euro zone bailouts to come (customers), etc, the list of economic woes goes on. It is all tragic and really frightening.

    Just get as much cash as you can and keep it - like the Chinese and Japanese do - they look after their own and we have to now and let the Govt sort out their own mess! Ignore 'spending' our way out - it is c**p of the first order. Over spending got us into the mess.

    Govt needs to support real businesses making real products again and not the FTSE ‘made up money / growth’ brigade.

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