Rising rents are a red flag for the property market

By Phil Oakley Aug 21, 2012

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Rents hit a new record high in July according to the latest buy-to-let index from LSL Property Services. You might think that’s good news. It might be for landlords. But for us, it’s another symptom of the country’s malfunctioning property market.

The average rent is now £725 per month according to LSL – up 2.8% compared with a year ago. London continues to roar ahead but rents are not going up as fast as they were at the beginning of the year.

But rising rents are not something to cheer. For one thing it means that more people have less money to spend after they have paid for a roof over their head every month. We don’t celebrate rising petrol prices. Will anyone be cheering when the price of bread starts going up soon because there isn’t as much wheat around? Rising rents are just another squeeze on the cash flows of consumers. It’s not what the UK economy needs right now.

Annual Rent Inflation July 2012

Source: LSL

But rising rents are telling us something else. They are telling us that houses still cost too much. The banks are scared of mortgages turning bad and don’t want to give too much money to people wanting to buy houses at the moment. Hence the numbers of people renting is going up. The increased demand for rental properties is pushing up rents.

By extension you might think buy-to-let would be a good thing to get into right now? Actually, it’s probably a very bad idea. I’ll explain why.

The case against buy-to-let

First and foremost, look at where your income is coming from. If you were looking at a share with a decent dividend, you’d look at the ability of the company to keep paying it. You’d look at its profits and cash flows. The same bit of common sense applies to rental property. Can your tenant afford to pay the rent? With rents increasing faster than take-home pay, it stands to reason that for a lot of people, the monthly rent or mortgage payment is becoming harder to meet.

Rent arrears as % of rent due

Source: LSL

That’s why nearly 10% of all rents are currently overdue. Whilst not as high as the levels seen a couple of years ago, it’s still a worrying number and it has been creeping up. At these levels, it makes a big dent in the returns you get from rental property. As Capital Economics notes in its recent housing market update, there is a risk that mortgage – and by implication rental – arrears increase as the growth in part-time working and underemployment squeezes more households.


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But even if these issues didn’t exist, the returns from property are abysmal and could get a lot worse. A few weeks ago, I calculated that buying a house with an average rental yield of 5.2% actually led to a cash loss when all relevant costs and voids were taken into account. That’s not to say that landlords who have owned their properties for a long time aren’t making good yields on their purchase costs – many are.

But in my previous article above, I suggested that a new buyer with a 60% buy-to-let mortgage is losing cash every month. So why would they pay current house prices? Only with house prices considerably lower than they are now can buy-to-let make sense.

Put it this way, if I was borrowing money to invest in a rental property, I’d want at least 5% on my own money for the risks I’d be taking on. Otherwise, I’d just buy utility stocks or real estate investment trusts (REITS) and stick them in my Isa. So, if I want a 5% cash yield, with average rents of £725 per month - which is where they are now - I’d be looking to pay about £90,000 (see table below) for the average rental property – or about 45% less than they cost now.

How the numbers work

What I am doing here is looking at my expected monthly cash flows from renting a house. The income side is simply rent less an assumption about how often the house is empty or rent isn’t paid. I’ve assumed one month here (or 8.3% of annual rent), although the LSL figures suggest that this is nearly 10% in reality.

On the cost side, I look at typical costs such as insurance, letting agent fees and maintenance. Maintenance costs are likely to be lumpy. In some years you won’t spend much. In other years, the boiler will need replacing or the house will need redecorating. The estimate of annual maintenance costs attempts to smooth these costs. I then take away mortgage costs on a buy-to-let repayment mortgage based on 60% loan-to-value at 5% for twenty-five years. Finally, income tax is deducted at 20%.

Based on these assumptions, the annual cash return on £36,000 of the investor’s own money invested (40% of £90,000) is 5% after tax. By way of comparison, a cash buyer paying £90,000 would receive income after tax of £4,814, or a return of 5.3%.

 

Monthly rent £725
Annual rent (£725 x 12) £8,700
UK average house price needed (see below) £90,000
Gross rental yield (annual rent / price needed) 9.7%
Annual rent £8,700
Insurance premiums (2.5% of rent) -£217.50
Replacement / maintenance (10% of rent) -£870.00
Voids (1 month's rent) -£750
Agency fee (10% of rent) -£870.00
Mortgage costs 60% BTL @ 5% (capital and interest) -£3,788.14
Net income (rent minus costs) £2,229.36
Tax @ 20% -£445.90
Net income after tax £1,783.50
Owner's equity invested (40% of price) £36,000
So: return on owner's equity (£1,783/£36,000) 5.0%

I’m not saying that house prices are going to fall by 45%. But when I argue that UK house prices are significantly overvalued, the calculation above forms a large part of my case. Yes, you can quibble with some of the assumptions (see previous article) but when you are losing cash every month, do you really think that you are going to make capital gains on property at current levels? Who in their right mind would buy the house from you?

This is exactly the same flawed argument that was used to peddle worthless internet shares. History tells us that investing in something for capital appreciation without the support of a decent income stream usually ends in tears.

Every month, LSL gives the average total return for rental properties. This takes into account the returns from rents and changes in property value. At the moment the return is a pretty poor 4.5% per year (before tax) consisting of income of £7,763 (or £937 less than fully let indicating that voids are a serious issue) and a capital loss of £305.

Annual Total Return on Rental Properties

Source: LSL

The rental market looks increasingly stretched. Rising rents make it harder for tenants to pay their monthly bills. Even with rents going up, new buy-to-let investors – unless they are large cash buyers – will lose money.

Only a sharp fall in house prices will address these problems. As I said last week, the sooner this happens, the better.

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  • 1. JAW

    (21 August 2012, 06:35PM)  Complain about this comment

    The sooner there is a sharp fall in house prices the sooner the banks will be insolvent, the sooner we will all have to bail them out again, the sooner will the National Debt rise to never to be repaid heights, the sooner the UK will lose its AAA rating, the sooner bond yields will rise to PIIGS levels, the sooner will George Osborne have to go to the IMF for a bail out, the sooner will interest rates rise, the sooner will hard-pressed families default on their mortgages, the sooner repossessions will flood the market, the sooner more companies will go out of business, the sooner the Great Depression will return, the sooner Money Week will start shedding staff, the sooner Phil Oakley will be collecting his dole money.... Yeh, the sooner this happens, the better.

    You don't know what you are wishing upon yourself?

  • 2. Yogi

    (21 August 2012, 06:52PM)  Complain about this comment

    Again you cannot use averages this way each BTL should be calculated individually, BTL are not premium properties people want to own they are the lower priced not so well sited and the rental return therefore is proportionally much higher than you suggest, rates, insurances and fees are lower. Also how can you include capital repayments and not show a return from the growth in the ownership %. The fact is until we build a lot more houses status quo will be retained.

  • 3. Paul

    (22 August 2012, 09:10AM)  Complain about this comment

    Just wondering why the amortisation of debt was treated as a cost rather than a return? In the above example it's the difference between a 5% ROC and a c.8.5% ROC

  • 4. Phil Oakley

    (22 August 2012, 09:25AM)  Complain about this comment

    Paul,

    You make a reasonable point. If you were to include just interest costs, the return on equity on a £90,000 in price would be 7.4% after tax.

    Put another way, to get a 5% after tax return you could pay £110,000 - implying a 33% reduction from current average prices, not 45%.

  • 5. Manny

    (22 August 2012, 10:48AM)  Complain about this comment

    1. JAW

    Yes there will be a depression.. The quicker we get on with it the quicker we would have been out of it.. But alas more fools will be suckered in and butchered by the property market.

    You do not have to worry about Osbourne and Cam.. they will be long gone. The 2 Eds will return to the scene of their first crime and commit an even bigger crime with their rubbish about plan B. They will go begging to the imf, labour have done it before they will do it again.

    -70% from 2007 peak will put all yield calculations asunder, especially when interest rates are normalised. Capital loss which all property bulls IGNORE will cause these people more pain then they can imagine . That is how all markets work.

  • 6. Roger

    (22 August 2012, 10:57AM)  Complain about this comment

    Interesting to see heated discussions about properties. It is also remarkable to see very resilient property prices in this round of recession -- really amazed me. In fact, apart from the PIGS and America, no whereelse has really seen dramatic price falls. Keen to understand.

  • 7. Neil

    (22 August 2012, 11:19AM)  Complain about this comment

    Phil's article doesn't go far enough in illustrating what an awful business buy-to-let is. I have a fairly large portfolio of rental properties in the north-west, accumulated from 2006-2008. All have fallen into negative equity. Most have given me numerous problems with tenants/tradesmen/councils/courts/deposit schemes... Every public sector employee (council/courts) sees loandlords as rich bast^ards , and tenants as poor victims. They have not the slightest concern of a tenant keeps his housing benefit to spend on beer & cigarettes, whereas a landlord taking money like this would be charged with fraud... this thread is not long enough to add many more case studies...

    I would not wish this business on my worst enemy... DO NOT get involved in buy-to-let...

  • 8. Stephen Griffiths

    (22 August 2012, 11:33AM)  Complain about this comment

    JAW. I don't buy it. Look at Iceland. Back from total catastrophe and on its feet again in years. We're being spun a line of BS by the banks that total catastrophe will follow if we let houses prices fall and banks fail. Meanwhile everyone in Britain is forced to spend ever increasing chunks of their take home pay either servicing a mortgage or paying rent. Not so in Germany where consumers have cash in their pockets to spend on other things. If prices are allowed to correct many will lose their homes but a whole new generation (currently locked out) will be able to buy. The current stalemate rewards those who borrow too much for overpriced assets. If house prices haven't risen after three years of 0.5% interest rates then they are definitely overvalued and need to correct.

  • 9. dan

    (22 August 2012, 12:23PM)  Complain about this comment

    Phil Oakley sounds like your Mr average amateur property investor indeed. The sort who bought overpriced new build flats at a property club after a lecture. Any PROFESSIONAL investor worth his or her salt buying now is buying at truly ROCK BOTTOM prices. The last 2 flats I bought in the North are yielding 15% not 5%. And rents are rising - voids are zero. Please do not listen to this uninformed drivel. Buy at the right price and expect £300 income plus per month per property for a cheap (£25k) flat at 6% lending. Buy low on 25 year mortgages and you will make a great living - especially now.

  • 10. SJM

    (22 August 2012, 01:37PM)  Complain about this comment

    House prices are not a complicated thing to understand. They are essentially a commodity, think supply and demand - real simple economics.

    The reason that people cannot afford to buy at the moment is because the banks are tightening up over uncertainty in the eurozone. That coupled with the fact that people don't have the % deposit to put down to make up the difference in equity.

    Now if prices were to fall by 45% as Mr Oakley with his crystal ball believes they should - you would have investors piling into asset backed investments with yields of 20% - which would then push prices up.

  • 11. SJM

    (22 August 2012, 01:38PM)  Complain about this comment


    The only place properties are overvalued in the country is in London, where foreign investment has hiked prices up to a level which means houseprice to earnings ratios are astronomical. So if the pound strengthens to a point where it is unattractive for foreign investment, or they find their own economies more attractive, you are hoping that earnings in the capital double to support the inflated prices. The rest of the UK is a very attractive investment for buy to let.

  • 12. Joe

    (22 August 2012, 02:42PM)  Complain about this comment

    #9 Dan meet #7 Neil

    Two very different experiences/assessments of the buy-to-let market.

  • 13. thicko

    (22 August 2012, 02:49PM)  Complain about this comment

    Don't rent, don't buy. Get a tent.

  • 14. thicko

    (22 August 2012, 03:00PM)  Complain about this comment

    dan is talking sense

  • 15. Prop Tycoon

    (22 August 2012, 03:09PM)  Complain about this comment

    Ask yourself this question, which investment would you prefer, pick one:

    Option A - put housing deposit in to shares to get a return which is not feasible to put in to a cash flow. No guarantee of capital gain and not much dividend for the amount equivalent to a housing deposit, risk on ex-dividend (which will cause share to plummet!)

    Option B - Borrow from the bank, off-set taxes and know that you are going to get at least 5% return which you can at least manage and influence the outcome of. Even better if you get a discounted property the yield effectively doubles. If you have any sense in the property market you will be able to carry out your own due diligence well. Its common sense really but it seems as though some of the buyer have not picked properly!

  • 16. CJ

    (22 August 2012, 03:28PM)  Complain about this comment

    I HAVE A LARGE PORTFOLIO AND WANTED TO RAISE A FEW POINTS 1) INSURANCE PREMIUMS I PAY FOR GOOD COVER ARE APPROX 25% CHEAPER THAN STATED 2) MY MAINTENANCE IS APPROX 6% OF RENT SOME 40% CHEAPER THAN YOU ALLOW FOR 3) YOU ALLOW FOR VOIDS OF 1 MONTH - THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IS 21 DAYS AND FOR GOOD HOUSES IN GOOD AREAS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS. I HAVE VIRTUALLY NO VOIDS 4) YOU ALLOW INTEREST + CAPITAL REPAYMENTS FOR MORTGAGE PAYMENTS WHEN NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WE PAY DOWN CAPITAL ON A BTL MORTGAGE - WE ALMOST ALL DO INTEREST ONLY BECAUSE ITS TAX AND ASSET EFFICIENT!! It seems pretty clear that the figures you give have been adjusted to support your arguments when the evidence points the other way. Buy to let arrears stand at just 0.21% of all btl mortgages.

  • 17. dan 222

    (22 August 2012, 05:36PM)  Complain about this comment

    over the last 20 years i have made a lot of money by ignoring MW and 'the economist''s anti-property hysteria.

    i never seem to do as well from MW's hot share tips.

  • 18. Winnie the Pooh

    (22 August 2012, 08:35PM)  Complain about this comment

    Now then boys and girls, close your eyes, breathe deeply and imagine, as the air fills your lungs, the line on a graph of UK house prices gradually over a few years going down and at the same time the lines at the corner of your lips gradually going up. Then go about your day in a wonderful mood. Repeat this therapy daily and share it with all your friends. Ah, that feels nice, doesn't it.

  • 19. nick

    (22 August 2012, 09:15PM)  Complain about this comment

    Wow, I see a lot of angry people who REALLY don't want to countenance a fall in property prices.

  • 20. Neil

    (23 August 2012, 12:14PM)  Complain about this comment

    #9 Dan comments are bs drivel. 15% returns, rising rents (in the North ! where rents are falling & arrears rising rapidly). Zero voids. Welcome to another Property Course seller... there's still so many newbies out there who don't know the realities, and fall for this nonsense.

  • 21. Harry34

    (23 August 2012, 12:26PM)  Complain about this comment

    Most successful buy-to-let investors have a clear strategy that they stick to. I let out three properties in Bristol to students. The strategy involved buying large properties close to campus and converting them to HMOs. They are let on a room-by-room basis to students, with parental guarantees in case they do not pay the rent. All rooms have wireless broadband and a basin, and many have en-suites too. Rental yield (after interest payments and all maintenance costs) is about 12% per annum. Rental arrears are less than 2% - almost certainly thanks to parental guarantees. There are clear risks - what if University student numbers fall, or they build more halls of residence, or what if Government moves the goal-posts on HMO licences, or tax-deductible interest payments. However on balance we have a clear strategy and it is working for us so far.

  • 22. LOL

    (23 August 2012, 02:49PM)  Complain about this comment

    NICEY!

  • 23. Ellen

    (23 August 2012, 03:53PM)  Complain about this comment

    It would be easy for government to make BTL an unattractive proposition through being more ruthless about what are allowable expenses and enable more younger families and individuals buy their home - simply by weeding out this growing army of amateur landlords. From the economy's point of view, it an unproductive activity profiteering of the back of something as necessary and scarce as existing housing stock. Younger people in the UK are being endlessly exploited on several fronts and I think the ones who are in a position to launch careers in virtually any other country, should just go for their own good.

  • 24. SJM

    (23 August 2012, 04:15PM)  Complain about this comment

    Yes Ellen,

    Profiteering from scarce resources is limited to the housing market, if only landlords had the same mindset of oil companies, food suppliers, energy, and water suppliers.......

    The reason young people cant buy is because they cannot afford to save the deposit for a house as banks no longer issue 90+% LTV mortgages. Let's not forget that before mortgages (mid 20th Century) the private rental sector accounted for over 60% of accommodation.

  • 25. Lollipop

    (23 August 2012, 04:40PM)  Complain about this comment

    NICEY comments.

  • 26. Ellen

    (23 August 2012, 06:07PM)  Complain about this comment

    Young people can't buy because the banks won't lend at 90%+ as the banks know housing is hugely overvalued and are preventing further exposure to future falls in value. They are still trying to repair their balance sheets by keeping prices artificially high through ZIRP and allowing existing home owners to repay their debt at a reduced rate. It is to the advantage of those young people that they are not able to get loans on houses that are still in a price bubble but to the banks shame, they work hard to keep this bubble going. These amateur landlords just exasperate the market further.
    Finally, a hundred years ago many people had no access to basic education either. So your point on how many people rented before the 1930s building projects doesn't mean that was a good thing!

  • 27. ClaireW

    (24 August 2012, 07:55AM)  Complain about this comment

    Just to make you aware I have numerous BTL clients that are doing very well at the minute! So what if house prices fall eventually over the term they will rise at some point! This month we started with 18 BTL properties empty by the 20th of the month we had 3 left! On average we receive 3+ apps on each rental property we have available oh and there are 95% mortgages available with a new product being realeased only this week the mortgages are there and if people really want to buy they will

  • 28. David Atherton

    (24 August 2012, 10:46AM)  Complain about this comment

    Oh, here we go again, Moneyweek property bashing. You show the worst possible case and still show 5% return, which is a lot better than bank returns. I have a 75-house BTL portfolio and

    1. My maintenance is nothing like 10% of rent, maybe £500pa
    2. My insurance is 80p/£1000 - 0.8% not 2.5%
    3. 5% BTL mortgages go to 65% not 60%. And you can't count the capital repayment as reduction of yield.
    4. Voids? There are no voids in todays market. I have re-let seven this year, void was 1-2 days for turnover. I get 5-10 applicants for every house.
    5. Agency fees, I operate as an agent as well, and we charge as low as 5% for nice houses, max 9% for 'DSS' houses. With one quality BTL an agent is optional. With 'DSS' it's vital (lots happens!) but on those gross yield is well above your figure.

  • 29. David Atherton

    (24 August 2012, 10:57AM)  Complain about this comment

    Last comment disappeared so I'll summarize

    1. Maintenance more like 2% than 10%
    2. Insurance, I buy at 85p/£1000 (0.85%)
    3. BTL mortgages 65-70% not 60%
    4. Voids non-existent in today's market
    5. Agency fees optional, and you can get well under 10%.
    6. I buy £50k houses in the NW and rent them at £425pm, and as the article says, rents are going up!

    MoneyWeek has banged on about BTL (and everything else) being a bad investment for ages. Is there ANYTHING MoneyWeek thinks is a good investment? BTL is the ONLY safe way to make 10% these days. And basic rental houses AREN'T going down in price. Admittedly they won't go up much when recovery comes, but the game is yield today not capital speculation tomorrow.

    And it's easy, it's a thousand year old business, with no shortage of free info and contacts. Single biggest class of personal investment after interest-bearing accounts.

  • 30. David Atherton

    (24 August 2012, 11:03AM)  Complain about this comment

    Oops my last post did get on. Anyway here's a third one.

    Instead of just rubbishing BTL, Moneyweek would better serve it's readers by pointing out the pitfalls (eg buying non-local, onerous flat leases), highlighting best BTL mortgages, proper figures on other costs etc. The landlord mags do this all the time, but it would be good for a mainstream mag to look at it.

    BTW if you want to read if the housing market is turning, check out housebuilder shares. The market knows.

  • 31. ThomasBiltcliffe

    (24 August 2012, 04:16PM)  Complain about this comment

    #30. @David Atherton

    "re pitfalls eg buying non-local"

    I live in the South-east, just outside London and the prices of property in these areas for BTL mean that yields are rubbish. I have been looking into buying much further afield to get better yields. I have too much cash sitting in the bank that isn't doing anything. Do you really think it';s a bad idea to have several BTLs a couple of hours away if they are fully managed?

    Thanks

  • 32. Lupulco

    (24 August 2012, 07:50PM)  Complain about this comment

    #9 Dan meet #7 Neil

    Two very different experiences/assessments of the buy-to-let market.

    It means do your own research, Read, Listen and Learn from your mistakes.

    BTL or Stock market, if only the Government had stayed away.
    1] The Right to Buy should be abolished and then the 1000's of Housing Associations Wrapped up in 6 or 7 Regional Housing Associations, properly funded to build decent rental property.
    2] Deregulation of Banks, Merchant Banks for gamblers and Bog Standard High Street Banks for the boring bits.
    O! and 3] %rates back to historical norms, it slews the markets.

  • 33. Boris MacDonut

    (24 August 2012, 08:28PM)  Complain about this comment

    28-30 D Atherton. Smug with a capital S.
    Ellen. Calm down dear.

  • 34. ConnedbutContent

    (25 August 2012, 12:01AM)  Complain about this comment

    I saw a documentary where a killer shark toyed with a seal, allowing it to struggle for its life swimming between floating ice islands before knocking it back into the water then letting it escape again, until eventually through sheer exhaustion the seal collapsed into the sea and was gladly devoured by its hunter. After 7 years of waiting for the property crash, I have made and had an offer accepted on a property. My family is growing, my wife is fed up of renting dingy terraced houses in S.London, we need a place of our own. The solicitor wants £595 + Vat legal fees plus search costs kf £350, the bank wants £999 arrangement fees plus £500 survey fees, the government wants £11,000 stamp duty, the bank wants 25% deposit, which constituted my life savings plus family loans that will take me 3 years to pay back, and a mortgage that will cost me £1,300 per month for 25 years. I can't wait any longer for the crash, I'm tired and fed up of reading articles that prophesise a 'correction'.

  • 35. ConnedbutContent

    (25 August 2012, 12:01AM)  Complain about this comment

    I saw a documentary where a killer shark toyed with a seal, allowing it to struggle for its life swimming between floating ice islands before knocking it back into the water then letting it escape again, until eventually through sheer exhaustion the seal collapsed into the sea and was gladly devoured by its hunter. After 7 years of waiting for the property crash, I have made and had an offer accepted on a property. My family is growing, my wife is fed up of renting dingy terraced houses in S.London, we need a place of our own. The solicitor wants £595 + Vat legal fees plus search costs kf £350, the bank wants £999 arrangement fees plus £500 survey fees, the government wants £11,000 stamp duty, the bank wants 25% deposit, which constituted my life savings plus family loans that will take me 3 years to pay back, and a mortgage that will cost me £1,300 per month for 25 years. I can't wait any longer for the crash, I'm tired and fed up of reading articles that prophesise a 'correction'.

  • 36. Winnie

    (26 August 2012, 11:18AM)  Complain about this comment

    Ho ho ho! Still squabbling over the future of property prices? Lets face it people, if you've bought recently (or since the peak a few years ago), you're going to tell us prices will rise and if you're looking to buy soon, you'll tell us they're going to drop. All this prophesising-it's worse than fundamentalist religion. Nature is funny thing and people's natural ownership-risk-taking even funnier. I mean, with all the Euro crisis and history of uk property bubbles bursting, it doesn't take a genius to know where 'not' to invest money for a few years. Ironically, that's my prophesy, but then nature is an ironic thing...

  • 37. thedarkknight

    (27 August 2012, 07:13PM)  Complain about this comment

    @ 35. ConnedbutContent

    I've been waiting for this prophesied crash for years too! Sitting here wasting my money renting while everyone tells me that I should be getting a foot onto the property ladder. I totally understand you buying a home so you can just get on with your life. I feel like my life is on hold! My fear about buying somewhere are interest rates! I realise that I would be on a fixed for 2-5 years and everyone seems to think that interest rates will stay low for years to come. But will they? What sort of shock would in take for interest rates to raise and how would this affect the property market? Would tax payers be bailing out home owners and BTL landlords? I only see downside to UK property but how much and then trying to do the sums working out if I am saving money renting or not just gives me a headache!

  • 38. RichardC

    (27 August 2012, 10:45PM)  Complain about this comment

    The key to any investment property or share is the price paid.

    Property used to be operated on the 10% rule ie. the gross yearly income from rent had to be 10% ( or more) than the total cost of the property.

    With BTL mortgages interest only and the favorable tax system whereby interest is an allowable expense and with the 10% rule applied everything is still in favour of making a profit.


  • 39. Renter

    (28 August 2012, 07:57PM)  Complain about this comment

    Can anyone help me?
    I rent a studio flat in a nice part of North London - N10 and pay £500/month inc. all bills (£6000/year). The same size studio next door is on the markst for £180,000. So the landlord's annual yield is about 3%. But repair bills and expenses make that 3% more like 2%. Not only that, recently prices have dropped a little around here. Am I wise to hold out from buying? It just doesn't seem to be a lucrative business anymore. Even if I had the cash, I could make more by renting and putting the cash in bonds in high street banks. Plus no worries about the responsibilities of owning.
    Can someone give me some advice please.

  • 40. Renter

    (30 August 2012, 10:14AM)  Complain about this comment

    @39 I should add that '£500/month inc. all bills (£6000/year)' would make the rent 'excluding' bills approx. £5000/year and hence the landlord's annual yield would be more like about 2.7% and then after repair bills, void periods and expenses-maybe 1.7%. (You can get 3-4% interest on bonds in high street banks). My rent is not unusual around here-friends pay similar nearby and we all live 5-10 mins walk from the northern line tube. It seems there really is an oversupply of BTL landlords even in good London postcodes

  • 41. Ellen

    (01 September 2012, 07:37AM)  Complain about this comment

    @ Renter. Your rent seems OK, especially as the bills are included. I would ignore anything that is new to the property market. And if you really want to buy somewhere, go in with low offers on things that have been around for a while. We are in a low turnover housing market where lots of home owners are trying to get really high prices for their houses but would prefer not to sell at all than bring those prices down.

  • 42. Renter

    (01 September 2012, 10:37AM)  Complain about this comment

    @41
    That's good advice, but isn't underlying problem this: During Blair's boom years since the 90s, salaries, property prices, immigration were rising crazily. Now, enter Cameron and we're in double-dip recession, stagflation, Euro crisis, immigration cut backs (witness London Met Uni's deportation policy) and ofcourse property price reductions on their way. So wouldn't waiting for lower prices be the only wise option if you want a decent yield?

  • 43. Renter

    (01 September 2012, 10:47AM)  Complain about this comment

    @ 41 During Blair's boom years since the 90s, salaries, property prices, immigration were rising crazily. Now, enter Cameron and we're in double-dip recession, stagflation, Euro crisis, immigration cut backs (witness London Met Uni's deportation policy) and ofcourse property price reductions on their way. So wouldn't waiting for lower prices be the only wise option if you want a decent yield?

  • 44. Ellen

    (01 September 2012, 12:20PM)  Complain about this comment

    @42. Renter. Well, yes, I think London especially is in for a rude awakening, but not everyone agrees with me. Politicians are making some noises about how to level the playing field between investors and young first time buyers - which I think will leave some investors running for the hills. So hopefully for you, and they younger generation coming behind, the price of a home in the future will be loosely related to the incomes they earn.

    The only thing is, how long the tories are going to let this lax central bank monetary policy continue flushing free money (for some) into the system. Because a lot of that is the money going to investors who are preventing workers from buying their homes.

  • 45. Roland Rat

    (26 September 2012, 02:14PM)  Complain about this comment

    Just purchased a mint, spacious 1-bed flat in prime liverpool city centre for 55k fully furnished. I plan to rent this for £600month = 13% gross yield. This is a cash purchase. Even if the property value went to zero I still have income for the next 25years or more. Now don't tell me this doesn't look attractive...

  • 46. tony

    (08 December 2012, 02:25PM)  Complain about this comment

    Alot of buy-to-let investors have done well in the uk market. I think everybody should be glade that they are not in Greece right now or Spain compared to Greece and Spain we are top of the league table. Dont you think? Just one advice to those that are looking to get out the rental market. Buy in a area that is up and coming and there arenot many landlords in the area. Reasearch your market and don’t listen to Estate Agents!!

  • 47. peter

    (10 December 2012, 06:55PM)  Complain about this comment

    Ive had some bad experiences with estate agents in London and I was woundering if anyone knows of any good agents online that are good?

  • 48. tony

    (12 December 2012, 05:52PM)  Complain about this comment

    You can try the following website www.cityflatpals.com. I hope this site helps you. They are new online property portal. Goodluck...

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