More bad news for house prices: insiders are selling out

By Associate Editor David Stevenson Sep 30, 2011

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There was some good news for the UK housing market's cheerleaders yesterday.

In August, the number of loans agreed for UK house purchases rose to 52,410. That was up from 49,644 in July. If more mortgages are being approved, that normally means greater demand for property.

Meanwhile, the average UK house price nudged higher by 0.1% in September following a 0.6% drop last month. Prices are still down year-on-year, but the fall has been cut to just 0.3%.

So are things looking up? As you might have guessed, we don't think so. And it's not just us.

Now the 'insiders' want out of the property market.

Mortgage approvals aren't as good as they look

The pick-up in mortgage approvals last month was a bit of a surprise. The financial world has been pretty miserable recently. Yet in Britain, more people have decided they want to buy a house. It suggests surprising confidence despite the prevailing gloom.

But when you look at the details more closely, the latest set of mortgage approvals are nowhere near as bullish as they first appear. You can see what I mean from this chart.

Despite last month's recovery in the number of mortgages agreed, this is no higher than two years ago. And it's 60% lower than at the peak of the market in November 2006. In fact, at this level of approvals in the past, house prices have normally been falling.

So there's nothing much to shout about here. And that's confirmed when you look at the actual amounts of money lent. The Bank of England's data on 'total lending secured on dwellings' – ie mortgages – shows that over the last year, this has risen by just 0.6%. And growth slowed over the last quarter: the three-month annualised growth rate was just 0.4%, down from 0.5% last quarter.

Compare that with the 16% annual increases of four years ago. In short, total lending in the housing market has slowed to a snail's pace. And this could be as good as it gets.


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The economic outlook has been clouding over for months. Pay packets have been growing slower than the cost of living. This is putting the squeeze on consumers. People are being forced to pay more for essentials like food and fuel. So the amount of spare cash they have available to pay for house moves is shrinking.

In addition, the full impact of government spending cutbacks will soon be felt. That will result in extra public sector job losses, which will mean fewer potential homebuyers.

And remember, those August loan approvals were arranged before the latest series of financial market panics. Credit was already tight, meaning the banks weren't exactly keen on property lending. But over the last two months, bankers have got ever more jittery about lending money to each other, let alone to the British general public.

That could hit the UK property market in two ways, as I wrote last week. You can read the details here: How panic in Europe could hurt UK house prices. But to cut the story short, lending could dry up even more. And mortgage rates could start to rise faster than expected, which would further slow up demand for houses.

The insiders are bailing out of the property market

And here's where we come to maybe the scariest bit of all. The property market's insiders are selling out.

Growing numbers of estate agents are putting themselves up for sale, according to the boss of the stock market-listed agency Winkworth. This year the firm says it has had approaches from 35 agents who want to sell up. And it expects this trend to continue apace.

Now stock market investors pay attention when directors trade in their own companies' shares. When there's heavy selling by several top executives, it often warns of a looming downturn in a firm's business prospects.

So when we see estate agents – the people on the inside track – trying to bail out in droves, the conclusion is clear. They wouldn't be doing it if they were bullish – in fact, they're freaking about the future for the housing market. And that has to be a very bad sign for UK property prices.

Sure, there are 'hotspots' such as central London, which so far seem to have escaped any real price damage. But even here, as my colleague Merryn Somerset Webb has frequently pointed out, the good times can't go on forever.

So what's next? Next month, we'll be getting a panel of experts together for our annual property market Roundtable. Helped by the odd glass of wine, they'll be talking long and hard into the night about where they reckon house prices are heading.

The full story – and their conclusions – will be in the issue of MoneyWeek due out on 21 October. The property Roundtable always provokes a huge response from readers, and we expect even more interest this year – so don't miss it. If you're not already a subscriber, get your first three copies free here.

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  • 1. Graham Evans

    (30 September 2011, 10:48AM)  Complain about this comment

    Unfotunatley like most media commentators you apply a broad brush stroke approach to the entire market place without recognising the significant differences that exist between north, south, east and west of the country, let alone local and regional variations. You sensationalsie the obvious without reference to the less than obvious, and what makes something obvious is media exposure and overplayed downbeat headlines. Market declines have been driven by a number of seriously adverse global market conditions, however it is, as always, the negative media commentary that creates doubt, concern and lack of confidence. If the media took a year off the markets would recover far quicker and lack of confidence would be far less a feature. as we know bad news sells, good news is advertising in the media world.

  • 2. arthurb

    (30 September 2011, 10:57AM)  Complain about this comment

    Insiders bailing out ,35 agents approaching them to sell ,thats not because house prices are going down its because in the uk every man and his dog opens his own agency after a year in the business.There more agents than pizza shops in our town .Its capitalism at work

  • 3. Philip Allen

    (30 September 2011, 10:57AM)  Complain about this comment

    David, had it not crossed your mind that Estate Agents are 'bailing out' because far too many, pre 2007, were 'bailing in'?
    In my home town we have an Estate Agent every other commercial outlet. My question would be, 'How have they managed to hold on for so long?'
    As a 'financially free' property investor I still have no answer to my question (Merryn failed to respond), 'What am I doing wrong?'. Every article that Money Week writes on the subject of property reminds us, 'We're dooomed!', and yet, still, I continue to make money. I can't help feeling that so long as I keep reading Money Week and taking the contrarian view I'll be absolutely fine. Pass me another Pina Colada would you dear?

  • 4. Dan J

    (30 September 2011, 11:13AM)  Complain about this comment

    I agree with many of you at Moneyweek when you guys state that UK property prices are overvalued and long overdue a correction but in relation to this article...

    The fact that estate agents are bailing might be more to do with dwindling transactions rather than the direction of property prices. If prices were to fall the likelihood is that transaction volumes would pick up again especially once some confidence returned to the market after the correction.

    I think the reality is that our govt will do anything to prop up property prices and hence the stalemate we currently have within the UK property market is set to continue and the estate agents know it. They need transactions to survive and the reality is that there aren't any.

    The trouble is they have dug their own graves. If they didn't constantly talk the market up, maybe the market would have a better chance to correct and the faster transaction volumes could return.


  • 5. Lord Lucan

    (30 September 2011, 11:47AM)  Complain about this comment

    @1 "Market declines have been driven by a number of seriously adverse global market conditions, however it is, as always, the negative media commentary that creates doubt, concern and lack of confidence." Is there a positive media commentary that can be put on adverse global market conditions, or are you suggesting those conditions should be kept secret to protect house prices?

  • 6. mike

    (30 September 2011, 11:55AM)  Complain about this comment

    codswallop- to put it politely-
    bailing out in droves' 356 out of how many ? several hundreds? more??
    sounds like you have already been on the wine me 'ol mate
    And for the record who needs a glass of wine for a discussion?
    Plus who needs a verbatim page(s) covering record of a wine consuming discussion anyhow??
    print the summary for what it is worth and conclude and stop being so bloody pompous!

  • 7. Van

    (30 September 2011, 11:59AM)  Complain about this comment

    The recent turmoil in the stock markets will work opposite to how you think - it will just make people more fearful of stocks and see that more money goes towards property. With ZIRP in place until 2013 there will be no big lurch down, just small seasonal rallies and declines of a few % both ways. Savers are the big losers, not homeowners. It's not morally right, but that's just the way it is.

  • 8. mike

    (30 September 2011, 11:59AM)  Complain about this comment

    sorry-i mean 35 agents as mentioned in the article!

  • 9. jc

    (30 September 2011, 12:06PM)  Complain about this comment

    I for one appreciate the view offered in this article. People should realise that they're free to make up their own minds about what's happening with the property market, and where its heading.

    If it is heading down as suggested, then how can letting people know be seen as irresponsible? I'm a money week subscriber and I expect to be told what's happening, not be fed with 'news' designed to lift the market.

    There are many factors behind the current state of the UK property market, and all people can do is offer opinions as to what the important factors are, which is what this article does.

    Its pretty clear that there is growing downward pressure on uk property prices, the only mystery is how they've not slipped further sooner.

    J.


  • 10. Roberto Birquet

    (30 September 2011, 12:26PM)  Complain about this comment

    EAs are bailing out because transactions have collapsed. The property market in Britain has been built on two pillars. One is the huge credit made available by banks. Then the banks collapsed because their new business model depended in the financial markets being confident in their products (CDOs tec). The collapse of the banks would tell any rational observer that the property market was overheated. Read above comments, and sellers still incredible asking prices, shows rationalism is either dead or never existed.
    The second pillar was confidence. That is stronger than the first pillar, despite falling. Anyone who has studied economics knows housing demand has collapsed, and prices will follow but slowly. First demand is not how many houses people need; but how much money they have to pay for them - so it has collapsed. Prices are stubborn because sellers have an irrational attachment to top of the market prices.

  • 11. PropertyGuru

    (30 September 2011, 12:40PM)  Complain about this comment

    As someone who is STILL long on property, I can only respond with derision, and perhaps a nosebleed at the *pathetic* quality of commentary from what are obviously a bunch of estate agents with nothing to do. The most positive comment *anyone* has about the UK market right now is that it is 'flatlining' (i.e. the heart has stopped, the brain is about to go, bye bye). If BILLIONS in printy printy, and world record low interest rates of effectively ZERO can't keep this elephant perched up on top of the slender bamboo cane, what the hey can??? I fully expect a tremendous fall imminently, and although that will slash the value of my existing property holding, it will give me the chance of a lifetime to buy more. Face it, agents., the rest of the world has already HAD a correction (USA, 50% anyone?) and it's ONLY the yUK that is pretending 'nothing is wrong'.

  • 12. David Woodhead

    (30 September 2011, 12:49PM)  Complain about this comment

    Your headline seems to start with the assumption that falling house prices are bad news, which I firmly disagree with. Just 2 points:

    1. It is almost impossible, especially with the current unwillingness of lenders to actually lend, for those without a house to enter the property market unless they have relatives able to help them stump up a sizeable deposit. Even then, both partners need to be working with high salaries.

    2. The massive house price to earnings ratio means that, for those who have managed to get a mortgage, relatively small increases in interest rates are likely to have a significant effects on their ability to keep up repayments. Consider: even if you manage to get a 4% mortgage, an increase in the rate of 1% means your interest payments go up by a quarter. On an average mortgage in the South East, that's about £125 pm which is a huge chunk out of a family's budget surplus assuming they have one.

    Houses are not primarily investments, they're people's homes.

  • 13. Phil K

    (30 September 2011, 01:49PM)  Complain about this comment

    To be frank, this article is seriouly clutching at straws. were there no other articles finished or something ans you had to write something mintues before.
    Estate Agents are everywhere and they are closing down because there a hundreds of them all vying for the same business which as we know isn't anything like it used to be.
    Don't sentioanlise stuff like this. Your purpose is to give your opinion, but if you have got one to give, don't make one out of nothing!
    we'd all be better off without media like this, i thought MW was above this!

  • 14. SuecoBoy

    (30 September 2011, 03:23PM)  Complain about this comment

    Prices outside London can easily drop 50%.
    Appreciate the attempt on clever linking of market events, but... estate agents make money both on the up's and the downs. The reason they are suffering is the lack of movement.

  • 15. Stephan

    (30 September 2011, 04:02PM)  Complain about this comment

    An estate agent is an idiot with a phone, not an 'insider'.

    They're selling their businesses because volume of sales is low; nothing else.

    Given the non-existent barrier to entry (slap on some fake tan and start selling) there were/are far far too many agents in this country. It is what you might call a 'mature' market, and consolidation is only natural.

    Now go to the mirror and repeat: "I don't write for the Daily Mail, I don't write for the Daily Mail, I don't write..." and try again.

  • 16. Stuey

    (30 September 2011, 04:58PM)  Complain about this comment

    The property market is delusional. I myself used to own a property in 2006/2007. My salary has been slashed by around 40% because of economic migration. Many people are in the same position as me- on £15,000 a year and living/renting with relatives!
    Even basic accomodation costs 7 or 8 times my annual salary. I know plenty of people that earn less than me. A friend of mine lives with his wife's parents, he turned 41 this year!

    Bring on the property crash, i say.

  • 17. Supermarine Blues

    (30 September 2011, 05:39PM)  Complain about this comment

    The collapse in house sales volume is largely due to the actions of the banks, introducing silly rules designed to cause a property crash for their own selfish gain.

    So Estate Agents' volume now requires a smaller business model.

    No-one's gonna think "oh, my local estate agent's closed; I can't sell my house now!"

    All a bit sensationalist and bleedin' obvious, really.

    Still, another chance for some to whine how they'll suddenly be able to afford to buy if prices collapse, whilst completely missing the point that they probably won't be able to afford anything at all!

    It's the economy, stupid, as someone once said.

  • 18. Supermarine Blues

    (30 September 2011, 05:50PM)  Complain about this comment

    ...except for those that make the grade, Nationwide & HSBC have new products to help the FTB out.

    That sounds like they have some sort of plan to start lending a bit, at least.

  • 19. Roberto Birquet

    (30 September 2011, 05:58PM)  Complain about this comment

    Supermarine Blues
    The crash in transactions is because banks no longer have access to funds that would allow buyers to meet asking prices. And on the pther side by sellers who refuse the new market reality that peiople no longer have access to such funds.

    A property market crash would not be in the interest of the banks. If prices fall, they are obliged by accounting rul;es to raise their capital as their balance sheets would have to be mmarked down. It is the major reason why banks have not forced further repossessions despite the fact that millions are behind on repayments despite the low interest rates. It's called extend and pretend. The banks extend people's repayment schedule, and pretend they ar enot insolvent. responses such as yours proves Adam Smith wrong. Free market fundamentalists such as some in MoneyWeek need to recognise this.

  • 20. BullShark

    (30 September 2011, 06:09PM)  Complain about this comment

    As a person with sales experience I have to say that most real estate agents lack in sales and customer service skills. Most are order takers without any idea of the market realities and negotiation skills. Many have only seen the boom times only and they have no clue what's to come. The only real estate agents that are pleasure to deal with are the ones who have seen the previous market swings and are realistic about the market. They will survive this situation all the other ones will probably not.

  • 21. Hmmmmmmmmmm

    (01 October 2011, 12:42AM)  Complain about this comment

    Unbelievable that anybody in this climate can even remotely think property is an investment. The only way is down and here's just a few reasons why. Basically no-one can pay for houses at current prices, only deluded investors whose other investments are probably doing so badly that even a house purchase makes them lose less money (I'm talking about outright purchases here, and anyone still considering BTL will not only suffer a massive capital loss, but will be paying the banks for the privilege on top!). The other "investors" are frankly just retarded, the fact that someone here could even suggest that the crash is being engineered by the banks shows how clueless most people are. The banks have made most mortgages 75% LTV now (if you have no collateral) for a reason, because they expect prices to fall by that much (minus their safety margin of course), by the time it comes to renew (2-5 years).

  • 22. Hmmmmmmmmmm

    (01 October 2011, 12:45AM)  Complain about this comment

    Nobody seems to mention this but if you want to know which way house prices will go, you only have to look at the average LTV. The banks basically set house price direction with their LTV's. If they can lend out at 110% and the person defaults on the mortgage, they'll just repossess it and still make a profit when they sell it on, because house prices would have increased and they have all the mortgage money that the poor "owner" has paid so far. It all worked wonderfully, continuously ramping up prices and LTV's until the prices just became too ridiculous to maintain.

  • 23. Hmmmmmmmmmm

    (01 October 2011, 12:46AM)  Complain about this comment

    Basically, in a rising market, banks have nothing to fear, but once LTV's start to top 90% and you see policies/products etc that are frankly ridiculous becoming required to help FTB's onto the ladder (interest only high LTV mortgages, ZIRP, shared ownership, mortgages specifically designed to require collateral to be covered by parents/housebuilders/council etc), you know you're in a bubble that's got very little time left. It is true that negative sentiment is what is causing the crash now, but this is because it's only got investors left in it. People who are buying a home to live in care much less about the value of their homes because they'll just be living in it. Problem is, they can't afford to buy and now investors/banks are spooked too. Neither of these things is changing any time soon.

  • 24. NeutronWarp9

    (01 October 2011, 12:47PM)  Complain about this comment

    Of course, all articles and bloggers are giving their personal opinion - which should be offered with objectivity and humility. Who is right? Silly question - who knows. What irritates me is the desire of people to childishly ridicule or insult others who express an opinion that differs from their own. Wishful thinking drives chancer house doer-uppers (sorry, leveraged 'property developers') to declare there will be no property crash. Those locations that have sustained demand will often find a buyer or tenant, but that is not the majority of the market - and this article is writing in general terms, and intelligently refers to central London (and other areas no doubt) as an exception. I believe more spending power and low interest rates was a panacea for those seeking high house values. So what will the opposite conditions produce? I'll give you a clue. Anybody want to buy a tulip?

  • 25. Ave

    (01 October 2011, 06:31PM)  Complain about this comment

    I like the article, as lending as gone down a lot, and there are changes to the market, which can see a down turn, two things that i think are missed, Interest rates are low, and many people have bought house over the last 8 years on Mortgage, at the peak, if rates begin to rise, as the did, in the 90's to 10% or 15% everyone will have to sell up, as this could happen in the next 25 years, who is going to make payments on such a large amount: a trap.

    The second area is inflation about 5% that is a lot if you keep adding it up over the years, losing out there.

    I know people say house prices will rise, to cover it, they cannot keep going up all the time,

    Something has to give, somewhere, as it is a new ball game.















  • 26. Tom

    (02 October 2011, 11:41AM)  Complain about this comment

    Love Philip Allens comment's. Am enjoying passive income from our buy to let. Lots of equity in our propertie's never intend on selling in my lifetime. Most importantly am not overly concerned with wether the market goes up or goes down am investing for cash flow not capital gains. There are always oppurtunities in any market wether it's rising or falling it just means there are more opp's when a market is falling. I'm with Phil on this one stop all the gloom Merryn and alike it can only ever be good times if you want it to be. Make mine a banana dacorey ta luv!

  • 27. Boris MacDonut

    (02 October 2011, 07:51PM)  Complain about this comment

    #26 Tom,. I think you mean Dacquiri.
    Not sure what the article means by "insiders". I didn't realise there was a special club for special people.

  • 28. James Black

    (03 October 2011, 07:41AM)  Complain about this comment

    Measured in everything except fiat money house prices are crashing. Just look at the raton of house prices to gold/oil/wheat or any commodity you choose.
    The reason they are not crashing when measured in fiat pounds is that the government keeps printing pounds (quantatative easing) in order to prevent a visible deflationary collapse of the housing market.

    The housing market has to continue to collapse further intin the gold house ration is about 65 and the dow gold is 1 or less than 1.

    If you are over borrowed on a mortgage or in negative equity well sorry about that but the market has to crash before this mess is over.

    Thanks for reading this.
    James Black

  • 29. new at this game

    (03 October 2011, 10:44AM)  Complain about this comment

    I think one point that is being missed, is Estate Agents are not seeing a future or turn around point so are trying to throw in the towel. Also I think it's not negative comments bringing down the number of transactions I think it's the amount of money the average person has.

  • 30. Benny

    (04 October 2011, 04:27AM)  Complain about this comment

    A motgage should be no more than 2 1/2 - 3 time net income. If you borrow in excess of this then more fool you. Average wage ?25000 (Generous estimate). Therefore average property needs to be around 65000 - 75000 for most people to afford a "Safe" Loan.

  • 31. Paul

    (04 October 2011, 09:02PM)  Complain about this comment

    @Tom, "Im only investing for cash flow not capital gains". Bit of a flawed strategy there Tom, i thought the most successful property investors, or any investor, buys low and sells high??? If bought well, the capital gains will always far outstrip the rents you will achieve.

    Investing in property in this economic environment is a bad idea, as we wont see lending so lax as seen pre 2007/8 in our lifetime. Where is the money going to come from?? Property has only avoided a crash due to government intervention, and will continue its downward trend until it has reached an affordable level, driven by lending and demand.

  • 32. Beta Adjusted

    (05 October 2011, 02:38PM)  Complain about this comment

    Very pessimistic about property but, of course, what else to own? Gold ...

  • 33. Tom

    (05 October 2011, 03:49PM)  Complain about this comment

    Paul, You are right you make your money when you buy not necessarily when you sell. What I mean is my main focus is on the cashflow from the property. After I have bought it at the right price. I never intend to sell so I am not overly concerned with wether the property rises or not. Also considering I bought at undermarket value in the first place and added value by doing it up aswell as investing a healthy deposit I have a large buffer to protect me from any potential downside. In an up or down market the property will pay for itself and I don't feel the emotion attached to rising or falling markets as I get the same cheque (positive cashflow) no matter what the market does. Thus any capital gain is just a bonus to be withdrawn at a later stage and used to reinvest according to the same strategy hopefully in a falling market. It might seem hard to do but you can do it if you really want to. If financial freedom is your focus it will happen.

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