British house prices are heading for long-term decline

By Associate Editor David Stevenson Dec 07, 2009

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Surely it's time to sound the all clear for Britain's housing market?

In November, house prices rose for the seventh month in a row, according to the Nationwide. Values are now up 2.7% year-on-year. Home loan approvals rose again in October. And one housebuilder, Bellway, has even said that current sales are 10% ahead of last year.

So why are we still bearish? Because this isn't the whole story. In 2010 and beyond, prices could head right back down again. Here's why...

Four reasons why house prices are headed for long-term decline

Last week's upbeat housing news was seized upon by property bulls as a further sign that the market has bottomed. It comes on top of the most recent unemployment figures, which showed that in the three months to September, the country's dole queues shortened slightly.

Employment data is one of the most important indicators of what's likely to happen to property prices. So if British job losses really are levelling out, that could really bolster the market. But the opposite would be very bad news.

1. Unemployment is going to rise for a while yet

And that's the problem - that September job statistic looks like a false dawn. Even Alistair Darling confessed recently that, "unfortunately, unemployment will continue to rise for a while".

With a general election looming next year, he wouldn't have been keen to admit this. But it looks like he's right. Last week a string of companies said they're shedding labour. Steelmaker Corus is slashing 1,700 jobs in Teesside. Defence giant BAE is cutting back its workforce by another 640 as its order book suffers. City law firms could cut as many as another 5,000 employees as demand for business services shrinks. Even the Greater Manchester police force is sacking 300 officers after overspending its budget.

In short, there's plenty more job loss pain to go round. The fewer people in work, the less cash around to buy houses and repay loans.

2. Home loan approvals are still low

The second reason is home loan availability – or rather the lack of it. Housebuilder Bellway said last week that it expects half-year sales to be up 10% on last year. But the firm is still worried that potential home buyers can't get their hands on loan finance.

Last week's Bank of England figures showed that home loan growth is running at an annualised rate of less than 1%. OK, October saw a modest uptick in home loan approvals. But approvals are still 40% lower than their long-term, pre-credit crunch average. What's more, says Seema Shah at Capital Economics, they're 30% lower than the monthly level which history suggests is required for sustained house price rises.

3. Low interest rates won't last

A third reason to be wary is interest rates. Today's record low levels are helping millions of homeowners with their loan repayments – for now. But that's unlikely to last for too long.

As we discussed in the magazine last month, (Will the government bond market blow up?), rates are currently being kept down artificially. (If you're not already a subscriber, claim your first three issues free here.) Central banks are printing money and buying government bonds with it. That has pushed down yields on long-term bonds. This can't continue forever. When it stops, rates will rise again.


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Add this to the double whammy of rising job losses and lending curbs, and UK house prices could suffer a lot more damage. Why's that? Because when house prices were rising sharply, many homebuyers seriously overextended themselves. Their borrowings were much too high as a multiple of their incomes.

The only thing that's keeping them in their homes right now is the temporary reprieve granted by those record low rates. But as Jean-Pierre Husband at credit ratings agency Fitch notes, over two-thirds of UK borrowers are now on floating rate home loans (ones that change as underlying rates change, unlike fixed rates). That compares with under half in August 2008. "Their ability to service existing debt would be adversely affected by any hike in interest rates", he says.

In other words, higher loan costs would mean a big rise in borrowers falling behind with their repayments. That in turn would cause a surge in repossessions. And an extra dose of cut-price properties would then hit the market – and values, too. So far prices have only fallen by about 13% from their 2007 peak. But Fitch sees that drop extending by at least another 20%.

4. The supply of homes is set to surge

And finally, we come to the last big argument put up by housing bulls – that there's a 'lack of supply' which is keeping prices climbing. Clearly, even if there aren't many buyers around, if almost no one's selling, prices must rise.

But that too could be about to change in a big way. And not just because of rising repossessions – though that won't help. There's something on the horizon even more worrying for property bulls.

"There are big changes in the offing which could have a significant effect on the property market", says Lorna Bourke on Citywire. "The 'baby boomers' of the 1940s and 1950s are now reaching age 65 and coming up to retirement. Many intend to use their homes to subsidise this by selling up and downsizing".

Over 1.3m over-50s plan to cash in on their properties for retirement purposes, says new research from insurer LV=. This implies more than a million properties coming onto the market over the next few years. Many of these will be in upper price brackets where, supposedly, there's currently a shortage. So even if many of the 'downsizers' buy back into the market at cheaper price points, the amount of money about to be extracted from UK housing will be huge.

In a nutshell, this completely blows the 'lack of supply' case right out of the water.

Add this all up, and it's very hard to see how UK house prices can avoid falling into a long, and painful, decline.

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  • 1. Arnold

    (07 December 2009, 10:58AM)  Complain about this comment

    What a load of bosh!

    Try reading some statistics about population demographics and immigrant intake, there will be a supply-side shortage for years to come, a supposed over-supply of upper range houses will do nothing to help new immigrants or new buyers. Pretty poor article, more inclined towards the absolute rubbish usually peddled by Capital Economics, the arch doom and gloom merchants.

  • 2. moliets

    (07 December 2009, 11:02AM)  Complain about this comment

    I am currently trying to buy a house in the Thames valley in the £1.5mn to £2.0mn range. I am pretty familiar with every house within about 30 miles of Henley on Thames. It is obvious that whereas until recently houses were priced at over £2mn to realise say £1.8mn, any house with a price tag over £2mn (unless quite exceptional) is just left on the shelf. The list of houses for sale for 2-3 years and still unsold despite hundreds of viewings tells its own story. And this despite no return on cash in the banks and massive withdrawals to reinvest in bricks and mortar. In short, the big house market is in full decline, just what the article predicted. 2010 and 2011 will be catastrophic. The smart money will sell now for 25%-30% off the 2007 highs.

  • 3. Nigel Davies

    (07 December 2009, 11:08AM)  Complain about this comment

    I agree with everything stated in the article but I think the rise in property transactions is also due in part to the confusion in the minds of those members of Joe Public who have spare cash but are now totally confused about where to invest it. To a nation brought up on "safe as houses" mantra property is still the fall back position .

  • 4. Paul Phillips

    (07 December 2009, 11:24AM)  Complain about this comment

    House price falls are most likely in areas where people live because they have to and not where they would prefer.

    Land values in desirable parts of the South East are so high that downsizers can demolish established family homes worth as much as 2.5 million and developers will put up a row of town houses to market at 1.5 million each.

  • 5. Lee Revell

    (07 December 2009, 11:29AM)  Complain about this comment

    Whilst I agree with the first few comments in this report I have to say the baby boobers as you put I think you will find will stay put and wait for the next five years at least to see if they can not maximise the value of their property, unless of course they can not afford to run the property. People in this country are inherently greedy so they will listen to all the other reports about property prices will come back and as I find at the moment I am making realistic offers on property based on your statistics but people are just not accepting them and holding out and or taking their properties off the market!

  • 6. Mark Parker

    (07 December 2009, 11:36AM)  Complain about this comment

    It's pretty clear we're in a "false" economy at the moment, caused by QE. Next year should see the end of that and either the governmennt will balance its books (unlikely) or it will need to raise interest rates to fund its debt (likely).

    In fact just balancing the budget would be insufficient. Even with no debt growth they will still need to sell £50bn worth of gilts (approx) to roll-over existing debt. With no QE the price must be made attractive to the buyers.

    The general rule is: take some pain now or more pain later. For the last decade this government has always prefered the "more pain later" option. "Later" will be Q1-Q2 next year.

  • 7. John

    (07 December 2009, 12:07PM)  Complain about this comment

    Prices are likely to remain weak and probably fall next year. In the Thames Valley area where I am selling a property prices have dropped 20% from 2007 and are likely to stay lower right into the new year unless a change of government brings in measures to boost the market which I think unlikely. Higher unemployment, possible rises in interest rates will also have an adverse effect on the market. The only bright spot that I can see is that there is a shortage of supply and many of the buyers in London and the South East will be from abroad taking advantage of the weak pound.

  • 8. Bob Roberts

    (07 December 2009, 12:11PM)  Complain about this comment

    I am reliably informed by one EA that in my part of the World, Swansea, the majority of the houses being sold are going to cash buyers from London.

    There is, admittedly, very little on the market but what does come on is being snapped up by the Londoners with cash and hence prices are not dipping at all. Add in a work-force who are predominantly public sector workers then even unemployment has not yet hit the local economy. Basically there is no sign of a housing crash down here.

    I am told that the buyers are often leaving the houses empty, not even renting them out, as they would prefer to have their cash in bricks and mortar than in the bank.

    Frankly, I think a major shock will have to hit the UK - something even greater than the Autumn 2008 banking crisis or, God forbid, some kind of terrorist outrage, before UK house prices now crash. I think the low IRs are saving the indebted house owners and punishing the prudent savers - and lows IRs are here for 2010.

  • 9. Michael

    (07 December 2009, 12:19PM)  Complain about this comment

    And the 5th reason is the squeeze on the middle classes. As reported on the front page of the Independent this morning the middle classes are going to suffer a 9% drop in disposable income and the rich (apparently those earning more than £150,000 pa) by 15% according to a PWC report. This is before the 'soak the rich' pre budget report which can only make matters worse.

    If you own a house now I would get out quick

  • 10. Christ

    (07 December 2009, 12:19PM)  Complain about this comment

    I hope your research for this article on the financial side was a lot more thorough than your research regarding police officers being 'sacked' which you seemed to state with great relish. The over spend by Greater Manchester Police is being looked at through natural wastage and other lean thinking which will probably amount to just applying common sense.

    Does't give me much faith in the rest of your comments.

  • 11. Peter Kellow

    (07 December 2009, 01:06PM)  Complain about this comment

    The big factor that is almost never mentioned when discussing UK house prices is the alternative to owning – renting. The prospect of renting in the UK is ghastly. Who wants to cope with the insecurity of six month contracts and landlords that will sell at the first opportunity of seeing a profit? In France there is only one standard renting contract that can legally be used. It gives three years security to the tenant and no pet, no children, clauses are outlawed. This means renting is a viable option. The lack of sensible renting legislation in the UK keeps house prices disproportionately high. But they will fall anyway because the prices depend above all on the one factor David does not mention here - the supply of credit. This will fall as QE finishes and banks become risk adverse. The lack of credit combined with a ridiculously high starting point means a long, long bear market for housing. And the killer would be legislation to make renting viable as in other EU countries.

  • 12. RedEvo

    (07 December 2009, 01:12PM)  Complain about this comment

    House prices ballooned because of cheap credit. People were adding a years salary at a time in bidding wars safe in the knowledge they could secure cheap funding. It was totally out of hand. 135% loans? For goodness sake!!

    There was a never a shortage of houses, only easy access to credit. The myth that house prices rose simply because of demand is plain daft.

    Of course I'm not saying there isn't a shortage of places for people to live, but this doesn't mean house prices have to rise, it means we need more affordable homes and social housing.

    I've always thought the term affordable housing was an oxymoron.....

    d

  • 13. keeldar

    (07 December 2009, 02:18PM)  Complain about this comment

    Downsizers will still want a house presumably

  • 14. Niru

    (07 December 2009, 03:09PM)  Complain about this comment

    Downsizers will still need to live somewhere, unless they are moving overseas. So a corollary to this, is that smaller house prices will get pushed up, especially those in convenient areas near shops etc. This is likely to make the market tougher for those entering the property market.

    Also, with the Australian dollar going up, the many expats living abroad may enter the market to get stake. Renting in Australia is relatively cheaper than buying as the council taxes are paid by the owner and rental returns are low.

  • 15. rikrok

    (07 December 2009, 03:42PM)  Complain about this comment

    Well in my area, East of London house prices are at an all time high, probably 10% higher than the peak of 2 years ago or so.
    I guess its a short term thing.

  • 16. Richard Smith

    (07 December 2009, 03:59PM)  Complain about this comment

    House prices will continue to stagnate for another two to three years; which is the length of time it is going to take the economy to kick-start itself, which in turn, will once again put the cash where it needs to be - in working class peoples hands. House prices will not fall any lower as there are always 'punters looking for a bargain' . Equally there are not the '10x your salary' silly loans, that got us in to this mess in the first place. Therefore house prices will only increase when more funds become more accessible. Lastly, interest rates are going nowhere for the foreseeable future. Unless, of course, the BOE, Premier or greedy bankers want to trash, what slow recovery that has been made so far. And, of course, the loose cannons once again, are the banks, whom are a law unto themselves; who continue to smother the slow economic progress by refusing to distribute the life blood of the economy (the cash) at affordable rates to those who need it.

  • 17. Cornish Maid

    (07 December 2009, 04:52PM)  Complain about this comment

    House prices appear to be coming down again in this neck of the woods - thank God! I think it is criminal how this generation has thrived on selling the next into slavery.

  • 18. steve

    (07 December 2009, 05:17PM)  Complain about this comment

    if we were all to base the lending criteria on the trditional3to4 x the annual income thenthen the avaradge working class person cant get much for there money in england now my own personal incom has dropped by 200 to 300 pounds a week from 2 years back mainly due due to the factof supply and demand in the work place driving our rate of pay wy down to below what i would need to by a property now i just could not do it itink eventually things will ballance out but this is the correction we have all been waiting for and its here for a while yet how long can the government keep shaking the money tree?

  • 19. Cal

    (07 December 2009, 05:20PM)  Complain about this comment

    This is a great article. As a veteran of 3 property slumps it is warming to see you scaring Joe Public away so investors like me can buy stuff with not too much hassle. Thanks, just got one with 9.5% yield without capital growth.

  • 20. Richard Spong

    (07 December 2009, 05:25PM)  Complain about this comment

    As stated previously, downsizers will need to move somewhere. Young families forced to put up with small properties for over a decade will jump at the chance of a larger property.

    Overall there is still an undersupply of affordable housing and a rising population requiring somewhere to live. It comes down to basic basic supply and demand. I cannot believe we are in for major house price reductions.

    When houseprices start to recover, thousands of reluctant 'Buy to Let' investors will bale out of the market. This will cause a massive shortfall in social housing and major problems for local authorities. Over-regulation of the rental sector will have much to answer for.

  • 21. Joshua

    (07 December 2009, 06:03PM)  Complain about this comment

    I agree with the comments made but would add the following:

    Property prices are confusing at best for most lay people to understand. This is a "Cat Bounce." This CRASH will materialise gradually at first (over months and monthhis negative momentum will gather pace IT ALWAYS DOES!!

    There are far too many negatives in the economy and confidence will go especially after the May 2010 election, the cost of living has reached such a pivotal point that these imbalances will need to be addressed.

    Who is going to pay for the Olympics, record Public Debt, War in Afghanistan/Iraq and last but not least the massive benefits system (we actually pay out more in benefits than we receive in tax!).

    YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU!! To pay the money back!!! Who else is going to pay? The Politicians!? YOU!!!!!!


  • 22. Fred James

    (07 December 2009, 08:20PM)  Complain about this comment

    We have found it extremely difficult to downsize. Our 4-bed detached house in a nice area of Berkshire took exactly 16 months to sell. Early on we had two offers at 6 and 11% bellow the asking price that we declined, but no offers at all during the next year. We subsequently dropped the price by 5% and in August we decided to accept the single offer we received at 10% below that. I am glad that we did so as the clouds keep gathering over the UK property market.

  • 23. Malcolm

    (07 December 2009, 09:07PM)  Complain about this comment

    Article okay until point 4 as highlighted above. People downsizing still need somewhere to live and greed or alternatively necessity will decide whether they can afford to stay put.
    Smaller homes and our home owning philosophy will mean that our children will expect their own place and unless the population falls then demand will be inheritently strong - it then comes back to credit supply which will dictate the affordable element of the equation.
    Interest rate movements will also impact - the Bank's haven't sold repossessed stock as renting covers the cost of holding and thus negates the need to posssibly write down asset values thus protecting the balance sheets.
    Interesting times ahead what with the tax rises.

  • 24. Roberto Birquet

    (07 December 2009, 10:23PM)  Complain about this comment

    Richard Spong says its down to basic supply and demand without explaining what D&S means. This is key.

    A million refugees from Darfor will not boost prices. Why? Demand is NEITHER simply what people want NOR what they need. X million people does not mean demand at x million houses. Demand is a measure of a product or asset (such as a property) at a certain price - not just of an asset at any price. There may be demand of 1000 for a £100K house, 2000 for a £75000 house.
    What determines demand?
    Demand is the amount of properties people are Willing AND ABLE to pay for at A price. The British have proven themselves willing to pay huge prices. However the ability to pay is declining. For UK housing that creates a simple equation. Lots of available credit = rising house prices, Scarcity of credit = falling house prices. All other considerations are meaningless. Unless you believe the UK one can exist on the rich paying for all housing with cash, expect a crash.

  • 25. Roberto Birquet

    (07 December 2009, 10:33PM)  Complain about this comment

    Malcom also misunderstands what demand means.
    he says.
    Our home-owning philosophy will mean our children will expect their own place and unless the population falls, demand will be inheritently strong - it then comes back to credit supply which will dictate the affordable element of the equation.

    me: No! The supply of credit is what determines demand for housing, not its affordability. Increase credit, that will raise prices, too, So no improved affordability. With wholesale markets shut and unlikely to return as they were for decades, the banks will not have the cash to raise credit supply. So hosuing demand will fall. This is really simple, chaps.

  • 26. Marky Mark

    (07 December 2009, 11:09PM)  Complain about this comment


    I lived (didn't own) in a terrace house in Leytonstone east London which cost in excess of GBP300,000 late 2007.

    Perhaps a majority of the people in the street were first or second generation immigrants. Husband works, wife looks after the kids.

    If the husband earns say GBP30,000 (and many would earn less) how much can he afford to pay for a house after you take into account income tax/NIH, council tax, gas/electricity, food, car, insurance, clothing, wife & 2 or 3 children.

    My guess is that terraced housing in East London needs to be much closer to 100,000 GBP than 300,000.

  • 27. Moneyweek costs me a packet

    (08 December 2009, 12:47AM)  Complain about this comment

    Are you for real? With all this QE, low interest rates and feel good factor means house prices will soar for the next 6 months, just like stocks. You mugs at moneyweek have already stayed out of the market and lost 50% returns on stocks. Get real and ride the bubble. Property is here to stay for the next year, what happens after, who knows?

  • 28. James May

    (08 December 2009, 12:51AM)  Complain about this comment

    This is ludicrous. On the coalface I am seeing nothing but a plentiful of cash buyers, with a lack of supply. Prices will not decline from here, no way. The smart money is in bricks and mortar.

  • 29. Daniel Victor

    (08 December 2009, 01:41AM)  Complain about this comment

    Downsizing cannot really affect a shortage in supply,since the baby boomers have to live somewhere.It can only shift demand to a different part of the market - and if the effect of the shift becomes too pronounced,price differentials will be squeezed and the scope for downsizing will be reduced.Besides,there are costs involved such as stamp duty,estate agents' fees,moving costs and our glorious leaders ridiculous home information packs.

  • 30. Harold Gough

    (08 December 2009, 10:12AM)  Complain about this comment

    As someone who is retired, and has developers offering substantially over the market rate for our home (they want the large garden), I am far from keen to sell up and find somewhere else.

    Long gone are the days when properties popped onto the market for a few weeks to see what buyers were prepared to pay. Now that it costs the current owner around £500 for those stupid, pointless HIPs, this does not happen anymore. As a consequence, the once vast choice of properties has gone.

    When you are retired, or close to retirement, you no longer want to compromise on the type of house and garden which location for employment, commuting, kids schools, etc. would have determined. You will be spending most of your time there and will be much more choosey. Hopefully, as those factors disappeared from your life, after a couple of house moves, you may be close to your ideal and reluctant to sell unless a gem of a home (according to your lifestyle) becomes available.




  • 31. Richard Spong

    (08 December 2009, 10:30AM)  Complain about this comment

    Roberto Birquet is simply identifying 'supply of credit' as the key criteria. The outlook from his point of view is gloomy at best. Whilst I think we should all be more careful, I strongly disagree with his assertion that the credit squeeze will last for decades resulting in a complete crash.

    At the end of the day banks are a business and must make profits. I believe lenders will identify products, with reduced risk, within the next 12 months. Profit margins may be tight, but if profits can be made from a critical mass of solid clients then competition for business will return.

  • 32. Roger

    (08 December 2009, 10:41AM)  Complain about this comment

    Pointless to discuss house prices, we all know what's going on. It has been exceedingly resilient in the South East in this recession. On my street, price did not budge from the highest point. It is unlikely to do so anyway.

    It depends so much on the location and bubble levels locally anyway.

  • 33. Brian

    (08 December 2009, 12:06PM)  Complain about this comment

    Surely if a million of us wrincklies want to buy a house in the cheaper bracket then that will cause the prices in this bracket to to rise ? Also if they are selling the more exppensive houses in large numbers that will cause the price of these to fall. Taking into to account the other costs invloved in moving house, solicotrs,captital gains etc, it would appear that they will be not be making a huge amount by downsizing ,so will they bother?

  • 34. Peter Kellow

    (08 December 2009, 12:24PM)  Complain about this comment

    All the housing bulls above have ignored my point number 11. about the horribleness of renting in the UK at present. Don't say you weren't told when renting in the UK is eventually normalised with the rest of Europe

  • 35. Pieman

    (08 December 2009, 12:45PM)  Complain about this comment

    Property ownership in the UK is around 70% - up from 5% in the early 50's - thus we have been through a sustained period of new demand for property. It has found a ceiling.

    There are around 1,000,000 empty properties in the UK. That is no shortage. Builders are constsntly building more and persuading the government and public that there is a housing shortage.

    Paying off the QE, bailouts and overpsends of the last few years will cost us all money. Empty property will be taxed. We all will be taxed more and affordability wil decrease.

    When the baby boomers come to sell their over-sized piles (that cost more and more to run) in order to move to smaller premises, who will be buying? Their children's generation are already be in family homes mortgaged to the hilt.

    The British public have a notion that property always rises in value over time, that's a perception that is hard to lose.

  • 36. Roberto Birquet

    (08 December 2009, 01:43PM)  Complain about this comment

    Roberto Birquet identifies 'supply of credit' as the key criteria. I strongly disagree with his assertion that the credit squeeze will last for decades resulting in a complete crash.
    Credit supply is the key criterium/criteria?
    I mean credit at the levels of 2002-07 won’t return, and probably for decades. Why? The system failed and led to a systemic meltdown of the entire financial capital system. Failures of such an epic size lead to complete overhauls of the system. It can be compared to the 1929crash/30s depression - which led to Bretton Woods and Keynesianism, and to the 1970s failure of that system, which led to Thatcherism and the new global de-regulated system. It is happening slowly, but the macro-economic "tectonic plates" are shifting. Those times of easy money are gone. If you don't see that, you are not looking at the bigger picture.

    Also seeing declining prices means seeing declining debt levels. So it’s a strange viewpoint to call that "gloomy at best".

  • 37. Roberto Birquet

    (08 December 2009, 01:44PM)  Complain about this comment

    The last post was of course a response to Richard Spong. comment no 31

  • 38. Kieran Osborne

    (08 December 2009, 04:06PM)  Complain about this comment

    What isn't mentioned is the value of the pound vs the value of houses.
    If GB devalues the pound much more I can see people putting money back into houses.

    No one is going to use the phrase "as sound as a pound" after the next year is out.

  • 39. getin

    (08 December 2009, 05:01PM)  Complain about this comment

    as the guy above mentioned .......Lots of available credit = rising house prices, Scarcity of credit = falling house prices.......
    absolutely spot on......
    the only reason house prices have not fallen further is because interest rates are so low , when they go up ....(the only way they are going from here - ok could be a year or so..) you watch people that cant afford their mortgages panic to sell up..... or fall further into negative equity.
    property is not at the bottom yet.

  • 40. harry arcos

    (08 December 2009, 05:16PM)  Complain about this comment

    Kieran appears to be the only one who has mentioned the value of Sterling when considering house prices. The cost of a house may have only dropped 10% in the past year or so, but meanwhile, Sterling dropped about 30% against the Swiss Franc. If you thought of selling your £500,000 home in the UK (I have) and living on a mountain, you would now have the equivalent of only £300,000 to buy it. Expect the pound to be worth even less in the near future and perhaps it might be worth holding onto bricks and mortar after all!

  • 41. Saskis

    (08 December 2009, 05:45PM)  Complain about this comment

    It is impossible to tell where house prices are going go be in a year's time. Yes, they are still far to expensive in relation to average earnings, but if people can afford the loan repayments, they will buy even at skyhigh prices. In my street prices have gone back up to peak levels, with properties selling like hotcakes. I don't particurlarly think it will last, but then again what else do you do with your money? I'd still rather put it in property than stocks, gold, banks or whatever. Which is exactly what the person said who just bought the flat above me (spare money after the sale of a house following a divorce). She was the first person to view and paid MORE than when it was last sold in September 2007. She will rent it out, so this is purely an investment. Even if prices don't rise or even fall, property is at least something tangible. I know what I would do if I needed to put money somewhere.

  • 42. richard

    (08 December 2009, 08:21PM)  Complain about this comment

    An intersting article but very thin on fact, the main assumption for a decline in real estate price will come about by a rise in interst rates, now why would the BOE raise rates if it would have that effect on the economy, one follows the other, boom means rates rise, bust means rates fall, without another boom, rates will remain low for a very long time. Now back too you war bunker with your stock pile of beans you must go and prepare for the end eah. ;)

  • 43. Rob

    (08 December 2009, 10:06PM)  Complain about this comment

    Interesting and informed comments - thank you.
    This is our little reality scenario.......in the particular part of West Christchurch Dorset where we live house prices have actually risen as there will always be a demand for quality bungalows in a 'nice' area.

    Come retirement (in the next 2 years) we will almost certainly not sell but realise capital against the equity and assist our son to obtain somewhere to live. Where else is he going to find a 20% deposit otherwise?!
    As we would like to live in a warm country over the winter months, we will probably rent out our home in order to rent somewhere abroad - so we will never sell but use our mortgage free residence to fund our modest retirement plans and future pension income.

    This is the reality of a good number of property rich, cash poor ordinary working class people in this country.

  • 44. Paul

    (09 December 2009, 10:08AM)  Complain about this comment

    Two things that will have the biggest impact on the housing market in the next 6 months.

    1) The Torys says they will abolish HIPs. Meaning any home owner who can wait for 6 months before having to seel thier house will wait and save £400.

    2) The Torys say that they will raise the stamp duty threshold to £250,000 meaning buyers would rather wait a few months and save £5000 rather than buying a home.

    The fortcoming election will dry up both buyers and sellers, reducing transaction volumes. This could (and probably will) be the tipping point for a double dip recession.

  • 45. Andy

    (10 December 2009, 05:51PM)  Complain about this comment

    I agree with the article and believe property prices are in for a long overdue reduction, but I just wish the Moneyweek writers would stake their reputations on stating WHEN they believe this will happen. They have gone on about this property crash for years and we are still waiting.
    Until first time buyers can afford to get on the property ladder (average income times 3) and there is the credit available then the market cannot and will not move any further. The fall will not happen until most people have to sell and the biggest driver for this will be interest rate increases which are unlikely before summer 2010. Allow a few months for people to get uncomfortable and then prices will fall.
    I think we're looking for a crash early 2011.

  • 46. pobinr

    (11 December 2009, 09:52PM)  Complain about this comment

    Too few homes & too many people in the UK largely due to uncontrolled mass immigration. Prices to decline ?
    Nonsense.

  • 47. Chris

    (13 December 2009, 10:42PM)  Complain about this comment

    Don't worry about house prices falling too much over the next five years. Just keeping a job and food on the table is going to be more important. The UK is about to go over the cliff of no return.

  • 48. Roberto Birquet

    (14 December 2009, 01:08PM)  Complain about this comment

    Many say that rising interest rates will be the main driver of a house price fall. Another driver would be the end of government support. Were it not for the government blocking banks from repossessing until a mortgage payer goes SIX months behind payments, a lot of distressed buyers would have come onto the market, allowing the market to adjust - finally.

    But this support is like a new Corn law - artificially raising prices, requiring either businesses to up wages or banks to loosen credit to enable purchases. Neither would be sound economically. One wonders whether the government is nakedly bending over to the high house price lobby or helping the poor (financially) mortgage holder. Either way, the result is fewer people being able to buy or move up the ladder.

    It would be short-sighted of the Tories if they were to "help" people buying with subsidies or tax cuts, impoverishing the next generation of buyers with high price barriers. Housing is the UK Myopic disease.

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