Ignore the naysayers – gold is not in a bubble

By Dominic Frisby Nov 19, 2009

Dominic Frisby

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Neon sign advertising to buy gold © Matthew Staver/Bloomberg

Wait till they start trying to sell you the stuff...

We had another good day for gold yesterday, as it climbed momentarily above $1,150 an ounce. The strength and speed of this move is surprising even me.

They say the hardest thing about riding a bull market is staying on. The bull will always try to throw you off. There are many who have not been as exposed to this move as they would have liked. Some have missed it altogether.

Now the bubble-callers are out once again. So today let's look at a couple of their most recent arguments and see if they carry any weight...

One of my definitions of a bubble is "a bull market in which you don't have a position". How many of those that say gold is in a bubble are acting out of resentment over the fact that they have missed the move? A fair few, I daresay.

Yes, gold has had a fantastic run and is starting to look overbought. But this is a bull market. Bull markets can stay overbought for long periods of time. Overbought readings show that money is moving into the market at a quickening pace. We have always said that gold is small market and when institutional money moves in it will quickly push things higher. That is what is happening.

Are adverts offering to buy your gold a sign of a bubble?

A number of people have pointed to the proliferation of adverts offering to buy your gold as a sign of a bubble and a top. I had an email from a young man of Essex saying there is one such institution loudly making this offer in his local shopping centre in Romford. I frequently pass a huge hoarding on Wandsworth Bridge.

But these companies are offering to buy your gold. They are buying gold off Joe Ignorant. It is when they start offering to sell you gold that alarm bells should be ringing. Joe Ignorant is selling his gold to them, because he doesn't know its potential. It is when Joe Ignorant starts buying that we are headed into bubble territory.


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I believe the model of these companies is to buy gold jewellery (which isn't pure, by the way - other metals are mixed in to make it harder. 24 carat gold jewellery is considered too soft). They pay below spot rate for the gold, melt it down and then sell it as scrap at closer to the spot rate – which is moving higher every day. (Do please email me if you work for one of these businesses and let me know if I've described that model correctly).

How about a new gold mine in Scotland?

I had another email about Scotgold, an Australian company which is building a gold mine in Scotland, saying that if the gold rush has reached the Trossachs, this points to a bubble. Again I don't agree. Gold is a depleting resource. Like all resources, the easy-to-find stuff has been found and mined. Now it is being discovered in increasingly remote and unexpected locations around the globe. Oil was found goodness knows how many feet under the North Sea off the coast of Scotland. Did this mean oil was in a bubble?

There is (rightly) a lot of excitement about this mine because it's the first gold mine in Scotland for a very long time. But, in the grand scheme of things, it's a tiny mine, with a goal of producing 20,000 ounces by 2011. There was a similar story about a gold mine in Northern Ireland a few years back, owned by a company called Galantas Gold. There was a furore of excitement, the stock price popped and dropped, and the company has had barely a mention since. But they have quietly gone about their business and, having gradually overcome the inevitable problems that strike all miners, are now producing gold at a small profit.

If there's any bubble at all, it was in the press coverage of these mines, not in gold itself.

Gold's headed for a bubble, but it's not there yet

We've heard it all before. Gold was in a bubble two years ago when it hit $650 an ounce, and before at $500. Gold will hit bubble territory one day but we are not there yet. I have a number of long-term price targets, which I shall outline in a future Money Morning. This bull market, which began in 2001, is now some eight years old. We are beyond the stealth phase and into the awareness phase (see chart below from a previous Money Morning).

Institutions have woken up to it, investors have woken up to it – but not all of them. We are not at the mania phase yet, there is no "new paradigm". That will come in several years' time - perhaps as governments and central banks start to talk about returning to a gold standard or similar.

Of course we could easily have a correction here. The bull market could easily throw people off yet again, and the US dollar is due a rally which would hurt gold. But gold is not in a full-blown bubble yet – unless, that is, you are using my definition of the word: a bubble is a bull market in which you don't have a position.

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  • 1. Relieved

    (19 November 2009, 10:59AM)  Complain about this comment

    Phew - that confirms it; gold must be in a bubble. Frisby is always, always wrong.

  • 2. Bubble Caller

    (19 November 2009, 11:25AM)  Complain about this comment

    Here we go again - Money Week must have an "exclusive" report for sale soon on how you can benefit from gold surge. Sometimes this service feels like a giant subscription Ponzi Scheme . Just admit it -you were totally wrong for over 6 months with your constant doom and gloom prophecies on the equity market and those readers who took your advice missed out on the greatest rally in history. NOW is the time to buy the defensives, not Gold.

  • 3. Chris

    (19 November 2009, 11:37AM)  Complain about this comment

    journalists are driven to sell copy, possibly more than truth. You only need to read a few books on investing, Four Pillars of Investing, by Bernstein, Random walk by Malkiel. Then invest for the long term - 30 years. You can't time the market consistently, so give up.

    I read moneyweek as it is a vaguely informative comic...

    I have had a position in Gold for sometime and must credit moneyweek for that.

  • 4. Solquam

    (19 November 2009, 11:43AM)  Complain about this comment

    But Joe Ignorant is buying gold. They have just started selling the stuff in bars at Harrods. There are ads about where you can buy it everywhere.

  • 5. Morba

    (19 November 2009, 11:48AM)  Complain about this comment

    I was in gold but sold when it got to $800 why? because the cost of production in South Africa is about $300, sooner or later either supply will catch up with demand or demand will hit the buffers.

  • 6. Digit

    (19 November 2009, 12:16PM)  Complain about this comment

    So you were in gold and sold at $800, shame you missed the extra $350.

    Sooner or later supply will not catch up with demand, because there is so much paper gold that has been sold short. There are thousands of tonnes of leased gold, which is supposed to be returned one day. There is also a massive amount of paper claims on the same small amount of physical gold in depositories.

    Currently there is a commercial signal failure in progress, the shorts will be forced to cover soon and the price will rocket even higher. India has just bought 200 tonnes at $1045, they are known to be very wary investors.

  • 7. jondoe

    (19 November 2009, 06:59PM)  Complain about this comment

    "Always wrong" ? I don't think so, DF's moneyweek articles and Spring price targtets in Nov 07 were spot on and helped me on to large profits in the gold/silver run up over the 07/08 winter . He is has similarly made targets for Spring 10.

  • 8. Whipperin

    (19 November 2009, 08:29PM)  Complain about this comment

    Dominic has experience when it comes to commenting on the precious metals market. He has been a regular contributor on the 'Really Useful Gold Thread' on ADVFN, he has hosted 'Commodity Watch Radio', and I have met him personally at silver summit meetings in London. His comments and thoughts should not be dismissed as those above do so easily.

  • 9. Simon

    (20 November 2009, 02:55PM)  Complain about this comment

    Dominic - 3 things have come to my attention since yesterday's email
    1) In the last 2 days MBH Commodities has recorded 97% of futures traders report being bullish on gold, the highest 2 day reading since their records began in 1987
    2) Royal Mint has announced quadrupling its production since this time last year
    3) When I get home, my 3 year old daughter tells me I can get Cash for Gold, 'its on the television Daddy, all the time'.
    Too much attention - in the near term something has got to give and I do not believe it is going to be the dollar. Why? The US housing market is already in pieces, still going due south and Gold will not save it!

  • 10. aryakhin

    (21 November 2009, 12:13AM)  Complain about this comment

    The author is absolutly right. Gold is finally decoupled, cause it's a real Money.

  • 11. dudebrah

    (21 November 2009, 09:58AM)  Complain about this comment

    DF's always wrong? Remember African Queen (T.AQ)?

  • 12. James

    (05 February 2010, 05:41AM)  Complain about this comment

    Gold is fine for storing your wealth but if you want to make some serious gains in Precious metals over the next 5 years, start hoarding silver..see www dot 999bullion dot com for more info on this and how I buy it from this website so much cheaper than anyone else I know :)

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