Should you sell your gold now?

By Dominic Frisby Aug 22, 2011

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Gold this morning is at $1,890 an ounce. It began July at $1,480. That's a move of over $400, or nearly 28%, in barely seven weeks. A number of wiser heads than mine observe that that's a parabolic move and that parabolic moves barely end well.

Is 25% in two months really 'parabolic'? Maybe. However you define parabolic, there is a very strong argument to at least take some profit after a move like this.

But what would you do with the money? And what about the risk of missing out on further gains?

What to do, what to do?

How to avoid temptation to sell your gold

When I first bought gold, I deliberately bought some physical gold and stashed it in a remote location for the simple reason that it would be a pain in the backside to sell. If I want to sell, I've got to go to said remote location, dig it up, cart it to a bullion dealer, negotiate a price and so on. Selling would not be a decision lightly taken. This was a deliberate step to remove any temptation to trade. I would only sell after a lot of consideration – when I thought the big move was ending.

Exchange traded funds (ETFs), spreadbets and even the online bullion banks, where you can buy or sell at the click of a mouse, make trading too easy. It would be easy to think 'we've had a good run, I'm going to take profits, wait for a pullback and then get back in'. Meanwhile, the financial system collapses, gold goes to $10,000 an ounce and you've lost your position.

The more trades you make, the more mistakes you're likely to make. Goodness knows, I've made enough.

Yes, gold has gone ballistic; yes, it's getting too much media coverage; yes, it's trading at the top of its range; yes, it could easily pull back to $1,400 and there would be no technical damage to the long-term chart. But the risk is that if you sell, you then fail to get back in. You lose your position.

One of my closest trader friends, whom I hold in highest regard – a doctor, a Yale graduate and a member of MENSA – bought into gold at $250 an ounce at the very beginning of this bull market. He saw the light long before I did. He bought what are now billion dollar mining companies almost for pennies. He made a fortune between 2001 and 2007. But since 2009 he's been overly bearish and missed the whole rally. He failed to get back in. I'm sure there are many more like him.


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Gold still has a long way to go

I can draw a million and one charts showing why you should sell gold now. But the fact is we still have a long way to go before we reach the end game. Heaven knows, The Times, who – mysteriously – have been steadfastly, resolutely silent on gold for several years now, despite numerous offers from me, finally mentioned gold in their Saturday editorial. They declared that 'demand for gold depends on factors such as dentistry' and that Gordon Brown 'was right to get out of gold'.

The mind boggles. While such breathtaking, eye-popping ignorance remains in the mainstream, you know that gold still has much further to go. These are all people yet to come into the market. In fact, I might add a positive article in The Times to my list of long-term end-game targets – up there with the British government buying.

House prices still have further to fall relative to gold. Stock markets have further to fall relative to gold. We still have negative real rates. Governments are still spending money they don't have, then debasing their currencies to cover the deficit. The financial system is coming under a force of pressure it will not be able to withstand. I can go on, but you know by now what the drivers are and I don't want to end up in Rantsville.

If you must trade, there's a strong case to be made for selling gold and buying silver here, as the latter has lagged. There's even more of a case to be made for selling gold and buying gold equities, which have also underperformed. In fact, this week gold equities of all kinds actually held up quite well while stock markets resumed their assault on hell. That makes me rather bullish.

But the short of it is this. Be right and sit tight. Stay on the train – maybe rollercoaster is a better metaphor – and enjoy the ride. The bull will try and shake you off in all sorts of different ways. Don't let him.


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Just look at the long-term gold charts

I'd like to show you next a couple of charts. The first is a log chart of gold since 2001. I have drawn a channel which shows gold's trading range through the bull market. We are trading at the top of the range, which makes a correction likely, healthy even.

Gold price chart

We could easily fall to $1,400 or $1,500 and there would be no damage done to the trend. So there's a case to take some profit (a case I would ignore by the way, if you haven't yet got the thrust of today's argument).

Next let's consider a linear chart of the same ascent.

For the first five years of its bull market gold traded in a clear upward channel, as denoted by the blue tramlines. At the end of 2005 it broke above that channel and the bull market accelerated. The upper line of that blue channel then acted as support during gold's corrections in the following years.

Since 2006 another clear channel emerged, as defined by the black tramlines, a slightly more vertical channel. After five years gold has now broken out above that channel. Perhaps we are now entering a third accelerating phase of this bull market and we'll enjoy an even more vertical channel for the next five years. And perhaps the upper black line of the 2006-2011 channel will mark support for future corrections. That would be nice. In that case we have support above $1,600.

Gold price chart

Cynics may scoff at this absurdly bullish scenario. Let them. I don't say this will happen. I say it's possible.

I'm just a bod from south west London. What do I know? But take a look back at this bull market and it's the cynics, the scoffers and the bears who have been consistently wrong.

In 2001 Professor Niall Ferguson, who went on to write and produce an entire TV series on the history of money, said: "Gold has a future, of course, but mainly as jewellery".

'The man who predicted the financial crisis', Nouriel Roubini, in October 2009 said: "All the gold bugs who say gold is going to go to $1,500, $2,000, they're just speaking nonsense".

All I can say is "LOL". (Or, for those of you unfamiliar with text messaging abbreviations, 'laugh out loud'.)

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  • 1. Dave

    (22 August 2011, 11:00AM)  Complain about this comment

    I am new to trading which made me too cautious at first. Everytime I put a stop in during a Bull run the 'roller coaster' would boot me out. Everytime I've given the given gold enough room to breath I come out in front. I've given the yellow stuff enough air for a thermal balloon now and and sitting back and smiling - for now! Thanks Dom for the advice, though I'm keeping my eye on things!

  • 2. Jam

    (22 August 2011, 11:10AM)  Complain about this comment

    A great and timely article Dominic. Thanks. I sold 10% of my gold holding last week for tax reasons: UK gold-buyers and sellers should still remember that CGT is payable on combined gains over GBP 10,600 in the 2011-2012 tax year, so there may be a case of selling a little to ensure you do not get stung if you decide to bail out of the train later down the line...

  • 3. Richard H

    (22 August 2011, 11:13AM)  Complain about this comment

    What about the junior gold mining stocks? In the face of increasing gold prices stocks appear to be more influenced by "market movements" rather than their company's potentially increased profits from high gold prices. Stock prices are well below their late 2010 levels. Even for producers it seems the increased value of their product counts for little. What is going to make that change (if anything)? Is the market sceptical about the price of gold, are cost of production increases inhibiting stock prices? Will miners find it difficult/impossible to fund the cost of developing a mine? The article (and others) mention this apparant contradiction but offer no in depth comment or opinion on likely outcome.

  • 4. David rawclifffe

    (22 August 2011, 11:28AM)  Complain about this comment

    You stated gold is still undervalued versus property & stocks.
    Can you explain your how you come to these valuations.

  • 5. David rawclifffe

    (22 August 2011, 11:31AM)  Complain about this comment

    Its a question not a comment im interested to know how you come to your stated valuations , that gold is undervalued as opposed to property & stocks

  • 6. Dave

    (22 August 2011, 11:40AM)  Complain about this comment

    Of course, in reality gold is not going up, rather paper currencies are falling relative to the yellow metal. And as Bernanke has said interest rates will stay at this level until at least 2013, and real interest rates will remain negative.

    In such a scenario, gold will continue to be a good place to preserve capital.

    I often hear people asking when is the time to "get out". Stop and think. If currency debasement continues at this rate, the key question is what will be the new currency which will be convertible with gold?

    In such a scenario, we should always hold gold, or as Buffett says re shares, "forever".

  • 7. Dave S

    (22 August 2011, 11:51AM)  Complain about this comment

    Great content as usual and my heartfelt thanks for putting me onto gold at £653 per ounce, this morning it was £1146!
    After such a strong run in the last few weeks I am cautious. Rather than selling have you considered hedging your position? This means you don't have to sell your position as I agree it may not be easy to get back in. Today I have hedged half of my position by taking a short CFD position reducing my exposure to gold price changes, I stand to make less if gold rises further over the next couple of weeks but will also lose less if we have short term price falls. I expect a pullback shortly but I agree with you I think this bull run is far from over. Once we have pulled back to less extreme overbought levels I will exit my short hedge and hope to take advantage of further price rises in the longer term. After all, even the recent sharp fall in silver prices, which looked like a collapse at the time, was only a pullback to the 10 period moving average on a monthly chart.

  • 8. TAFF DEALER

    (22 August 2011, 12:13PM)  Complain about this comment

    While gold should not be your 100% investment I intend to stay on board until something sensible happens with the massive debts carried by governments. If the EU cannot decide on a € bond: if the Disunited States of America cannot face the impending implosion and act then where else would you throw you money?

  • 9. Michael

    (22 August 2011, 12:27PM)  Complain about this comment

    You didn't offer an opinion about buying gold if you don't own it now. Over the last many weeks, the message from most savvy gold bugs/ experts has been "wait for a pullback". That was several hundred dollars ago!

    sincerely,

    goldless and clueless

  • 10. Greg

    (22 August 2011, 12:54PM)  Complain about this comment

    Thanks. Good advice. Unfortunately this year I sold off a reasonable chunk of my gold ETFs around May at about 1570 expecting to profit from the annual summer drop. Bad move. I hopped back in at about 1550 before the market took off again, but sold down a chunk at 1675 thinking I just got my timing wrong. Wrong of course again. I actually placed a small short SB last week at about 1827 only to see it bust immediately through my $30 stop loss. So I'm a frustrated believer., but I still have a decent enough holding and am not out in the cold. I use Dominic's favourite 144 day moving average gold chart as my compass [I notice Dominic omitted any referenceon it this time] and right now its off the scale of course so I'm hoping to see a good drop not too far off. I'm cashed up from a property sale but really dont fancy the current prices at all. I'm fine with the long view just not the short one.

  • 11. V.

    (22 August 2011, 01:40PM)  Complain about this comment

    ok I hold, but do I buy? or it is too late. At the moment, I do not have a very significant holding, only 4% of the total.

  • 12. Nancy Walker

    (22 August 2011, 01:56PM)  Complain about this comment

    I have kept my coins, but sold my bond with Investec Global Gold because it is in equities and when the stock market falls--it falls as well. But I have kept my Isa in the IGG to keep an eye on it and in spite of gold going up--it is going down. This scenerio has played out several times over the months and I have discovered that this investment is in shares in companies which invest in the miners, and when the gold goes up--the miners make a windfall. The investment is not in gold directly so I got my bond out before I lost anymore, and will do the same with the Isa before long.

  • 13. John Florio

    (22 August 2011, 02:26PM)  Complain about this comment

    Excellent well-balanced analysis-if you dont already , watch the
    open interest and O.I. CHANGES to better judge when gold
    prices might "correct" or significantly change from bull to bear.
    Keep exposing the poor nay-sayers who obviously wish they
    had bought some
    Jack [80 & counting].

  • 14. Peter

    (22 August 2011, 02:36PM)  Complain about this comment

    Thanks Dominic, following on from reading your Gold report over the weekend this was most timely. I have been a 10% gold holder for years, recently increasing the percentage in the teeth of "informed" comment such as you quote. How about another one from arch Keynesian Roger Bootle "Trouble with markets" pg 174 having given 9 reasons to avoid Financial advisers he then creased me up with "Really good financial advisers are worth their weight in Golf" - Funny?

  • 15. M

    (22 August 2011, 02:43PM)  Complain about this comment

    All the reasons that made me buy gold in 2008 (banking crisis, deficit spending) are still fully in play and on top of those we now have a sovereing debt crisis and seriously negative real interest rates! Most investors (institutions, hedge funds, private clients) are still seriously underweight and this bull is going to buck most off along the way. When relatives tell you to buy will be the time to sell. Remember a bubble is never called a bubble by the MSM!

  • 16. Dave

    (22 August 2011, 07:15PM)  Complain about this comment

    I still think this talk of a bubble is misplaced. Has nobody considered the possibility that as the presently constituted paper currencies continue to depreciate against gold, what should make them recover?

    Why should they miraculously strengthen against gold? Is it not feasible that the paradigm has changed and that eventually gold will be convertible to a new currency?

    There will have to be some amazing new discovery which absolutely transforms the global economy in terms of growth, otherwise I can't see how gold can fall against these currencies, whose supply keeps rising exponentially.

  • 17. Norbut

    (22 August 2011, 08:22PM)  Complain about this comment

    Executive order 6102 5th April 1933.

    Forbidding the Hoarding of Gold Coin, Gold Bullion and Gold Certificates
    An Act to provide relief in the existing national emergency in banking, and for other purposes~',
    in which amendatory Act Congress declared that a serious emergency exists,

    Words of interest here are EMERGENCY IN BANKING and for other purposes ie TO PREVENT FIAT FAILURE.
    My advice is sell it before your offered 50$/Oz for it
    History will repeat ...personal opiion of course

  • 18. Krass

    (22 August 2011, 08:45PM)  Complain about this comment

    Brave post! I am wondering what the author would say if the gold went back to 1.4k within the next seven weeks?

  • 19. Ben Cowell

    (23 August 2011, 01:31AM)  Complain about this comment

    I will continue to hold gold and have since 2003. It has make up more than 50% of my SIPP, the rest is in miners and resources, till they stop printing the paper stuff e.g. quantative easing and we see an alternative currency backed by it!

  • 20. Unwelcome_Messenger

    (23 August 2011, 05:54AM)  Complain about this comment

    @Norbut (08:22PM)

    At best (worst), ''history'' would rhyme, and I even doubt that possibility. It cannot ''repeat'' simply because the US Dollar was not FIAT back then. The dollar was directly tied to Gold back then, and (most importantly by far) a _majority_ of people owned gold.

    Today, the majority of people own plastic cards by which they have become eternal debt-slaves.

    My point being, NOBODY OWNS GOLD YET.

    Ps... Please do some research. This all-of-a-sudden parabolic price move is all about Venezuela's repatriation of 200+ TONS of Gold, which nobody (i.e. "Great Britain") has ant Gold available to return because it's all been leased out, with every single molecule having been leveraged 100 to 1 via paper derivatives.

    In other words...

    This is a massive short squeeze!

    Norbut: What would another Gold confiscation accomplish? (With all of 7 people owning the stuff)???

  • 21. Emvee

    (23 August 2011, 07:24AM)  Complain about this comment

    I am a 10% -er too. I bought in on the basis of using gold as a hedge. As other asset classes (bonds, equities etc) fall, gold tends to rise. As gold is essentially a useless asset (it does nothing to help to drive economies) I would welcome a big fall in its value. That would probably mean outlooks elsewhere are improving.
    So on the whole I have watched its meteoric rise with dismay, though that has, of course, helped keep my overall liquidity about the same.

  • 22. B Silent

    (23 August 2011, 11:30AM)  Complain about this comment

    Would the more financially astute readers mind to share with us the best (ie. cheapest ) way to protect our positions ahead of a ST correction? ... are there forwards, options or sell buy-back contracts etc. ?... my holding is in physical bullion

  • 23. Richard

    (23 August 2011, 04:15PM)  Complain about this comment

    Perhaps Gold has now topped out? Its level now is close to the previous peak which was also a surge peak during difficult times. Money to be made shorting gold on the way down, I think

  • 24. Bren

    (23 August 2011, 05:04PM)  Complain about this comment

    Hi, am totally new to investing. Having made some money from IT, I just want to preserve the value of it. I'm fairly risk averse and not mad to make huge potential profits, just not to lose the purchasing power of it. I have my mortgage fully covered with an offset mortgage, and have approx £50k sitting idle and doing nothing. Is gold the right place to be to achieve my aims or can you advise other strategies? Thanks for your thoughts...

  • 25. aidan

    (23 August 2011, 05:47PM)  Complain about this comment

    the big question is how do you know when to sell gold, the more it runs up the more dangerous using stop losses becomes, because everyones stop losses will be triggered at the same prices, surely after a huge run up like this it would be more sensible to sell some gold and put into quality natural resource stocks, even though they may be falling in the current sell off, they are still assets, the fact is that most people are not buying gold to hold onto forever , they are holding to sell in the future, also gold is much more liquid now than in the seventies so the sell off when it comes would be more violent, george soros has said that gold is in a bubble

  • 26. JohnnyC

    (24 August 2011, 08:57PM)  Complain about this comment

    I think you are right regarding a possible drop back to circa $1400. With Gadaffi all but gone we will have 5% of the world's gold freed from the hands of a dictator. Methinks that with rebuilding required they might liquidate some at these high prices to rebuild the infrastructure.
    I will not touch my safe deposit box - that gold is there to stay. I hope you didn't really bury your gold! Too many idiots with metal detectors!

  • 27. Roland

    (25 August 2011, 11:50PM)  Complain about this comment

    Dominic you have earned the right to laugh at those who don't get gold. I am quite relieved to see a pullback but still a bit nervous that many fewer people laugh at me now when I talk about currency debasement and gold. I haven't even seen the phrase "you can't eat it" recently! I think we are in for a long period of solid gold and so I am a gold mining bull despite my faith being sorely tested recently, those coming earnings will show. However keeping my eye not just on interest rates of major currencies but the slowly increasing convertibility of the red back.

  • 28. cliff smyth

    (26 August 2011, 03:58PM)  Complain about this comment

    can someone tell me if i should still by 5k worth of gold with buillionvault or is it to late thanks

  • 29. Saxonanglo

    (31 August 2011, 03:16PM)  Complain about this comment

    Any good trader would tell you that one of the worst things is to be greedy and in normal trading conditions all of those holding gold should have sold probably 50% to crystalise their profit. With the recent fall in the equity markets a lot of stocks are cheap and it is more likely you will make a bigger profit trading in equities over the next nine months than staying in gold. Since gold investments are a drain on economies it is likely Governments will start taxing gold transactions to reduce their deficits. Gold is now high risk. SELL

  • 30. CLASSY J

    (04 September 2011, 10:27AM)  Complain about this comment

    Help! Am goldless and clueless . Wish to invest in GOLD and appropriate DIVIDENDS. Don't know where to start.
    Thanks

  • 31. Phil G

    (05 September 2011, 12:56AM)  Complain about this comment

    Dominic,

    Great article as always, although I feel that you are a bit short of arguments to value where gold should be priced today. I recall an article of yours, dated early 2009 (I think), whereby you highlighted the gold/barrel of oil ratio as a key indicator to value gold, which made a lot of sense. After all, given that gold provides no income stream, only a relative valuation can be applied. Where do we stand today if we look at this indicator? And, isn't it telling us that gold is expensive at present and that the price may simply be measuring the level of fear and panic in markets? I would love your comments regarding this issue...maybe in another article to be published soon.


    Cheers,

    P.

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