How far will gold fall?

By Dominic Frisby Sep 28, 2011

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Don't panic, Mr Mainwaring, don't panic.

Yes, gold's been hammered. Yes, silver's been hammered even harder. Yes, it's ugly out there. But it's all perfectly normal.

It's happened before. In fact, it usually happens once or twice a year. It always seems to happen when the Chicago Mercantile Exchange changes its margin requirements. And it'll happen again.

And if you're one of those people who wished they'd bought gold but didn't because the price had gone up too much, now's your chance.

A nasty fall for gold

Let me start with the ten-year, log chart of gold. I have drawn some parallel trend lines on either side. As you can see, gold went to its upper trend line, then bounced off it, just as it did in May 2006 and February 2008, the previous occasions when gold got too far ahead of itself.

Spot gold price in the last ten years

Based on this chart, the gold price could fall to $1,200 an ounce and there would still be an argument that the bull market is intact. Unless this exceeds the ugliness of 2008, I don't think it'll do that.

So how far have we fallen? The high earlier in the month was $1,920 and on Monday morning we touched $1,530. Almost $400. That's quite a wallop.

But at the beginning of July gold was at $1,480. We're higher than we were at the beginning of July.

I've always recommended buying gold on pullbacks. When gold pulls back to its 52-week moving average (its average price over the last year), buy then. But, although it would regularly do so between 2001 and 2008, since 2009 gold hasn't done that. The furthest it's fallen is to its 144-day moving average and that, as I've identified before, has been proving an excellent entry point.

On the following chart, the red line shows the 144-day moving average. We actually went through for a couple of hours on Monday, though outside of US trading.

 Gold's 144-day moving average

It wouldn't surprise me to see the 144-day moving average fail in the coming months. I'm not saying it will. With all the goings-on in Europe, we're in anything-can-happen territory. But the evidence of the last three years says it won't.

The one-year moving average sits at just below $1,500, so that's another possible target.

Gold and silver have been hit by margin hikes

Over the summer, gold had actually decoupled from stock markets and was behaving like the safe haven it is purported to be. Every time stock markets sold off, money would go into gold.

But then the Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME) – the world's largest commodity exchange – upped the amount of margin it required to buy a gold future (in other words, you had to put more money down to invest). There have been three rises since July and in total margins have risen by $5,400 – nearly 90%.

Something similar happened with silver when it went ballistic in the spring. The CME raised margin requirements four times in a fortnight, amounting to an 84% hike.

It's no wonder both sold off.


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It's easy to get suspicious when this happens, particularly as both times it has stopped the market in its tracks. But the CME does have a remit to calm markets where there is excess speculation. If it ups the amount of margin required, those with too much leverage will have to close their positions.

In the short term it may look ugly, but longer-term I feel it is good news. The weak hands have been well and truly shaken out.

Another factor that will have driven prices down is losses elsewhere. Whether it's home traders or large funds, people will want to lock in some profit where they have it. Gold and silver are where they will have had it, so that's where the selling will have come in.

I know from experience this is what happens. The psychology is that you'd rather take a profit than a loss. And it's a relief to take a profit in a falling market.

The biggest beneficiary of all this has been the dollar, just as it was in 2008. For all the touted 'safety of gold', it's still the dollar people rush to in a panic, largely, I suspect, because they must settle their debt in dollars. There were signs this was changing in the summer, but these have disappeared. One day it will be gold, not the dollar, that people rush to. And the looser US monetary policy gets, the sooner that day will come.

The gold bull market is not over

The fundamentals for gold haven't changed. I don't need to remind you of them. I imagine the next few months will see whipsawing and consolidation rather than new highs. Indeed we have already seen quite a bounce off Monday's lows.

In the event of a 2008-style meltdown – which is looking increasingly likely – gold will sell off. The baby will get thrown out with the bathwater. It usually does. But it was the last liquid asset class to capitulate in this carnage. And just as then, I expect, should such a scenario occur, that it will be the first to rise out of it all.

The only thing I can see that will kill my conviction that this bull market is not over is the kind of deflationary crash the likes of Robert Prechter have been predicting, where the Dow goes back to 1,000 points or something stupid. But I don't think such a scenario is possible. Currencies will collapse first – in which case you would do well to own gold.

We have seen how policy-makers, whether British, American or European, will do everything they can rather than face the music and take the pain. They will be leant on to print, to bail out and to inflate – and print they eventually will. Heck, it appears our lot at the Bank of England are planning to re-start in November.

I took my kids to Thorpe Park a couple of weeks ago. I hated it. My kids loved it. But we're all already reminiscing about what fun it was. Do the same with gold. Ignore the noise, hold your gold, buy the dips – and in a few year's time you'll look back on September 2011 with same fondness you look back at the time you screamed for your life on some crazy thrill ride.

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  • 1. Mario

    (28 September 2011, 11:03AM)  Complain about this comment

    Another good read Dominic. Thanks! Do you think there's a point in buying physical gold and stashing it somewhere, or are we still in spreadbet territory?

  • 2. Jack

    (28 September 2011, 11:28AM)  Complain about this comment

    "The only thing I can see that will kill my conviction that this bull market is not over is the kind of deflationary crash the likes of Robert Prechter have been predicting, where the Dow goes back to 1,000 points or something stupid. But I don’t think such a scenario is possible. Currencies will collapse first – in which case you would do well to own gold."

    Would you care to write an article expanding on this?
    Were a deflationary collapse to begin, how would it play out? What would be the mechanisms by which currencies collapsed? How would it progress? What would be the milestones we should look out for as it happens?
    I for one would find an article of this nature most iteresting.

  • 3. DW

    (28 September 2011, 11:51AM)  Complain about this comment

    Well put, Dominic. We all know that Bernanke's helicopters are revving up to shower us with yet more paper. Everyone knows that King is ready to do the same.

    Which currency in history has retained its value after debasement ?

    Hold gold and be happy.

  • 4. Kingbingo

    (28 September 2011, 11:54AM)  Complain about this comment

    Dominic, I am confused, you feel that in the event of a highly probable 2008 style collapse then gold will get sold off heavily as all liquid assets will be.

    So why not stay in cash until that time and use that as your entry point?

    I agree long term gold (probably more so silver) have fantastic prospects.

  • 5. Blueski

    (28 September 2011, 12:39PM)  Complain about this comment

    Kingbingo - I had exactly the same thought and was equally confused by that comment in the article.

    I agree that the long term fundamentals for gold/silver are great but timing entry/exit is going to be key. Unfortunately however I fear that the more gold goes up in the longer term the heavier the hammering for other asset classes - hence the old adage 'Buy gold and hope it doesn't go up'.

  • 6. Nigel

    (28 September 2011, 12:42PM)  Complain about this comment

    Dominic, your article got me very interested in what the margin call was and how much real money is backing up the speculation in gold and silver. I wasn't surprised to find it's leveraged, but I was surprised to find out just how highly it's leveraged.

    Here's the finding:

    Gold (for 100 oz entry): $11,475, physical gold value: $165,290, Margin = 6.9%

    Gold (for 100 oz overnight): $8,500, Margin = 5.1%

    Silver (for 5000 oz entry): $24,975, physical silver value: $156,050, Margin = 16%

    Silver (for 5000 oz overnight): $18,500, Margin =11.9%

  • 7. John

    (28 September 2011, 02:31PM)  Complain about this comment

    Domonic, are you advocating selling all gold because you think it is likely to fall from the present $1500 level, keep cash and buy at some time in the future. If gold is subject to the type of falls just seen because of hedging it does not appear to be a very safe haven and its value is very much at the whim of the market.

  • 8. wislam

    (28 September 2011, 02:42PM)  Complain about this comment

    Thanks Dominic!
    Since the correction a couple of days ago, I've been looking forward to seeing your thoughts on this and your charts :)

    It's refreshing to read insight coming from someone who really understands bullion and the worth of paper currency with its fictitious value.

  • 9. Robert Brown

    (28 September 2011, 04:16PM)  Complain about this comment

    As far as I can see the only consistent message from Moneyweek is to hold gold. The reasons why, and opinions about gold's future prospects, seem to vary from day to day however!

  • 10. dr ray

    (28 September 2011, 05:35PM)  Complain about this comment

    Has anyone tried buying physical gold in the last few days?
    The price of gold coins on ebay has not changed and the bullion dealers I buy from are out of stock. One of the major ones has even shut the shop today. Either he is out of stock or else unwilling to sell at his usual premium over spot price.
    The story here seems to be a disconnect between fiat gold and real gold. Fiat gold is trending towards its intrinsic value while demand for real gold has increased since last week and the price for coins has not changed at all. In fact the supply seems to have dried up and the premium has increased.

  • 11. P

    (28 September 2011, 06:26PM)  Complain about this comment

    That's right, Robert Brown. It's because they're up to their eyes in it - they've no idea what it's worth, but their hoping to sell it to you at some point in the future, or borrow from you against its value.

  • 12. tb

    (28 September 2011, 06:51PM)  Complain about this comment

    "The fundamentals for gold haven't changed. I don't need to remind you of them"

    No but price has, alot. The price increase over the past ten years is due to the 'fundamentals' slowly being factored in, obviously.

    Doom and gloom analysis has well and truely hit mainstream (ie bbc trader reporting a couple of days back)- all of this is now fully factored in, obviously.

  • 13. vs-trader

    (28 September 2011, 06:54PM)  Complain about this comment

    my two cents - GOLD possible down side target 1450-1440 possibly within next 2 months.
    SILVER possible downside target 22.50 and possibly 16.00 if it does not stop.

    No point selling physical gold/silver (which is bought for outright cash without leverage). One can simply hedge the physical positions by futures (if you have large quantity) or spreadbets (in case of smaller quantity). That is how most gold holders make money anyway - either by leasing gold (which we small investors cannot) or by going short against their physical holding and using the dips to add to their physical.

  • 14. arthur

    (28 September 2011, 07:05PM)  Complain about this comment

    This was in the global investor and summarises gold perfectly
    Gold has tumbled more than 13 per cent in little more than two weeks – an alarmingly sharp decline that puts it near the front of the pack among poor-performing assets this month, eclipsing U.S. stocks, Canadian stocks, European stocks and even crude oil.

    gold has fallen at a time when investors have most needed it as a portfolio stabilizer and that its decline appears to be linked with asset tumbles elsewhere.

    far from being a haven investment, gold has become a speculative, high-risk investment that just doesn’t cut it when investors become nervous. In other words, it behaves a lot like a stock (Insurance bah humbug )

  • 15. Tom O'Neill

    (28 September 2011, 07:20PM)  Complain about this comment

    Very useful graphs, Dominic - thanks very much. I already had a buy in place at 1563, which was my own lower level guestimate: but as you say, we might go much lower still in a further bank crisis.
    I wonder if the next one might be precipitated by a drop in gold wiping out the over-borrowed margins of traders?! :-)
    I recall that 2008 steady fall in gold: that was very scary to sit through.

  • 16. Colin Selig-Smith

    (28 September 2011, 08:17PM)  Complain about this comment

    Gold has been trading against stocks and with bonds recently. When stocks go down, gold would go up and vice versa.

    That changed after September 21st, Bernanke said no more QE, all you are getting is a Twist. Gold started trading with stocks and against bonds.

    Why?

    We went from a potentially inflationary environment to a potentially deflationary one. In the second case, gold is just stuff like everything else and will reduce in price as everything else does.

    So if there is a mild recession, gold will drop along with everything else. If there is a severe recession or depression, gold will hold it's value as the fear of collapse (banks/governments) will push people to it's safe haven characteristics.

    Gold protects you from the failure of money. Either through inflation or collapse. It doesn't protect you from the strengthening of money. I still consider it well worth holding for exactly those properties and took the opportunity to buy the dip.

  • 17. Sajjad

    (28 September 2011, 09:08PM)  Complain about this comment

    Its very simple. The recent volatility we have seen with gold points to a crash. The volatility is not akin to a safe haven asset and appears to be speculative.

    Just watch out when we all want to cash in but not enough gold available to accommodate the sell. ???? The next crash/scam is showing its ugly teeth.

  • 18. Krass

    (28 September 2011, 09:28PM)  Complain about this comment

    “It's happened before” and it will happen again.
    “in previous occasions gold got too far ahead of itself” – will it happen again?

    The swift gold price drop tells us how difficult it might be to make the big gains everyone is hoping for.

  • 19. SJC

    (29 September 2011, 09:27AM)  Complain about this comment

    If you read the comments on Amazon around the time Prechter released his book in 2002 then they echo what Dominic said. Here was a man predicting a financial crisis that would have serious deflationary consequences. I recall him describing QE as like filling Lake Superior with a hosepipe. Fast forward to 2008 and you find the comments on Amazon change from 'stupid' to 'genius'. He also nailed the bear market rally in February 2009 two weeks before it kicked off (not bad for a Bear). For what it is worth in Elliott Wave terms, IF March 2009 was wave 1 and May 2011 was wave 2 then watch out below. I agree that 1000 sounds far fetched but so did his predictions in 2002 and only time will tell! He also believes gold will be the only asset you will want to hold for the long term but be prepared for it getting much cheaper before prices go to the moon.

  • 20. sladerski

    (29 September 2011, 03:13PM)  Complain about this comment

    An alternative view would be that all this pro-gold comments is Confirmation bias.

    I hold Gold but is it starting to lose its shine now its not a 'safe' haven?

  • 21. Rob

    (30 September 2011, 01:41AM)  Complain about this comment

    The argument for a deflationary depression is a very compelling one in my opinion and SJC's comment above are very pertinent. If you told someone at the DOW's top in 1929 that it was going to 40 when it was just above 350 they would probably also have said that was stupid.

    http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6404/dow1929crashewcrv2ap1.gif

    http://www.bloomberg.com/video/76255786/

    http://www.financialsensearchive.com/Experts/ewave/2009/0619.html

    My gold is fully hedged and has been for a few weeks now. Some big losses by many in the hedge fund industry last quarter could force some big redemptions and in turn we may see some PM selling at the start of the new month. Being flexible and open minded is the key in any investing strategy in my opinion.

  • 22. dr ray

    (01 October 2011, 10:06AM)  Complain about this comment

    "Has anyone tried buying physical gold in the last few days?"

    Since no one has replied I take that as a "no".

    I thought not.

    As usual, the ones with the strongest opinions turn out to be no more than "armchair generals"

    In my real world the price of gold has not gone down. What has gone down is the value of a digital record proving that someone else holding gold on your behalf will not go bust.

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