Could gold really go as high as $6,000? It's possible

By Dominic Frisby Nov 25, 2009

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On January 21, 1980, after a decade of Western economies stumbling from one economic crisis to another, gold spiked to a high of $850 an ounce at the London PM fixing. That price wouldn't be seen again for another 28 years.

One man, Jim Sinclair, sold all his gold the very next day, netting some $15m ($40m in today's dollars). How did he manage to time the market so perfectly? "I think I just got sober one day before everyone else," was his explanation in a 2002 interview.

But mathematician Tom Fischer of Heriot-Watt University reckons he had a model to base his decision on. Today, I want to take a look at that model, alongside a recent report from Société Générale on gold, and see what they suggest about just how high gold could go this time around...

After the Bretton-Woods agreement at the end of World War II, the US dollar was supposed to be interchangeable with gold at a rate of $35 an ounce. However, in the 1960s the French became concerned that, to pay for their new welfare state and the Vietnam war, the Americans had allowed many more dollars to be issued than they had gold to back them. The French were, rightly, concerned about the impact this would have on the value of their US dollar reserves, so they began exchanging them for gold. The central banks of Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany and even Britain in 1970 followed suit, ushering in gold's great bull market of the 1970s, during which it rose from $35 an ounce at the collapse of Bretton Woods in 1971, to $850 in 1980.

Today China is the one expressing concerns about the weak dollar. China has increased its gold holdings. Russia has followed suit and last month India bought 200 tons from the International Monetary Fund (IMF). Some have suggested that this purchase marks the top of the market, just as Gordon Brown's sale marked the bottom. But already gold is almost 10% higher.

Dylan Grice of Société Générale writes: "Gold feels frothy today, but the Indian purchase of IMF gold eerily parallels the French purchases of the late 1960s. And ill policy winds are blowing in its favour. With the precious metals consultancy GFMS estimating that central banks will be net buyers of gold for the first time since 1988, have the Indians just sounded the same starting gun the French did in 1965?"

How one man picked the top of the gold market in 1980

In 1980, at $850 an ounce, the market value of the 260m ounces of gold said to be held in Fort Knox (there has been no independent audit since the Eisehower era) reached $221bn. Yet only some $160bn paper dollars were in issue. American gold was actually worth 140% of American paper. So low was confidence in modern fiat money, that the free market had effectively put the US back onto a gold standard. One Zurich banker declared, "The US Treasury is once again solvent, thanks to the high price of gold." Was that what caused Sinclair to sell?

With central banks today printing money like mad, they run the risk of a similar destruction of confidence. So if gold was forced up to a price that reflects the number of US dollars in issue, what price would it be then?


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Grice reckons around $6,300 an ounce. With 260m ounces of gold held by the US and the Fed's monetary base currently $1.7 trillion (and printing), I make it a mite higher at $6,538.

To get back to that 140% high of 1980, then my O-level maths suggests a figure above $9,000 an ounce – assuming no more dollars are printed. But that is the great irony: the more dollars that are printed, the lower confidence in the dollar will fall, and the more likely this extreme scenario becomes. Moreover, the more dollars that are printed, the higher the gold price needed to back them becomes.

According to Fischer, Sinclair's model is slightly different. In March 2009, Sinclair wrote that gold's role "during periods of monetary stress" is to "balance the international balance sheet of the USA".

Using the Fischer-Sinclair model (read Fischer's article in full here), there is currently some $3,400bn of Federal debt held by foreign investors (source: US Dept of the Treasury, Financial Management Service). If we divide that by the 260m ounces of gold held by the US, we arrive at a figure of $13,076 per ounce. But, of course, US Federal Debt is rising exponentially, as the chart below shows, so that potential gold price is forever increasing.

Currently, the Americans' 260m ounces of gold at $1,150 an ounce comes to about 17.5% of the Fed's monetary base. The all-time low was in 2001 at about 12%, according to SocGen's Grice. If you prefer the Fischer-Sinclair model, gold amounts to just 8.55% of its external debt.

In any case, there's a long way to go before the amount of gold the US holds in any way reflects the quantity of dollars on issue. Even at $1,150 an ounce Fischer says, "it is no exaggeration to say that the current price of gold is very cheap in terms of money supply".

Gold's top is a long way off

Though it is the path we appear to be on, there is of course absolutely no guarantee whatsoever that the gold price will come to reflect the US Federal Reserve Monetary Base or its external debt. But should it ever exceed it, as it did in 1980, and there are also signs of financial sobriety returning to the establishment, then that will be the time to offload your gold. But any such top – should it ever occur – is still years away.

As they take on more and more debt, governments and central banks are doing nothing to stop this bull market and everything to inflame it. The longer it goes on (eight years so far) the greater, the more ridiculous and the more out of touch with reality valuations will be at its peak.

There will be more 20% and 30% corrections en route, when people will declare that it was all a bubble, but then gold will creep up again. And it will keep creeping up until governments and central banks properly purge the system and we get back to the next cycle of growth – at which point gold will be just about the worst thing you can possibly own.

But that time is a long way off.

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  • 1. J Dawkins

    (25 November 2009, 11:33AM)  Complain about this comment

    Very interesting and informative look at the potential future propects for the gold price. Thank you for the research.

    I see that India has also indicated it may yet visit the IMF gold shop once again and when one considers the tungsten gold bar scandal allegedly originating out of the US it does make one wonder how much actual gold is held in Fort Knox?

  • 2. dagagen

    (25 November 2009, 11:54AM)  Complain about this comment

    I think that in the next of your endless articles about gold, you should mention and factor in the growth in the supply of gold.
    I don't know how much newly-mined gold enters the market each year, but it must be a relevant consideration.

  • 3. lf

    (25 November 2009, 12:08PM)  Complain about this comment

    at 850 an ounce in 1980 what % backing to money outstanding at that time. Have to remember we had the Hunt high in Silver at 50 or 17 to 1 gold/silver ratio

  • 4. D Wickes

    (25 November 2009, 12:17PM)  Complain about this comment

    I have not read any discussion of the possibility of governments confiscating privately held gold or of governments compulsorily purchasing gold from its owners at a government decreed price.

    I believe this was done by Roosevelt more than half a century ago in order to prevent gold from eclipsing the dollar as a means of exchange.

    Could confiscation or compulsory purchase be the last resort of spendthrift governments in the event that the gold price rises to embarrassing (for them) levels ?

  • 5. cooldude

    (25 November 2009, 12:35PM)  Complain about this comment

    In reply to Dagagen the yearly rate of increase in the gold supply is usually between 1.5%-2.0%. The current rate is closer to 1.5% and is actually falling. When you compare this to the current increase in the money supply in both the UK & US where late last year we had a 10% increase in only one month you can see why more and more people are starting to lose faith in the Central Banks and are reverting to the only currency which has stood the test of time (5000 years) which is gold and silver. Dominic's articles are always relevant and are also usually quite profitable and don't worry about the mainstream perception of a bubble in gold. They are treating gold like another commodity whereas it is actually the oldest and safest currency and will still be a store of wealth when all the current ones have passed.

  • 6. JDEvolutionist

    (25 November 2009, 12:36PM)  Complain about this comment

    The present ludicrous system of ‘quantitative easing’, which is in fact the State forging money and is hence a totally corrupt illegal activity, in effect increases the quantity of money representative of the total value of ‘valuable’ goods and must therefore itself become significantly less valuable on a unit basis. Gold has value because it scarcity allows it to represent the value of 'valuable' goods, societies true wealth. Hence the massive increase in the cost, not the value, of gold when bought by such devalued (forged) currency. Unfortunately continuation of such policies has the potential to ultimately cause a loss in the value and number of goods previously regarded as having value; such an event then results in the reduced demand for gold and its own consequential, sympathetic devaluation. Such events can only be truly avoided by balanced, civilised and productive activity on the part of world societies acting as a coherent whole – and that is a long way off.

  • 7. Stuart

    (25 November 2009, 01:00PM)  Complain about this comment

    Interesting analysis once again, but as Mr Frisby mentions "the 260m ounces of gold said to be held in Fort Knox (there has been no independent audit since the Eisehower era)" means that the analysis could be very conservative. There is some suggestion (by GATA) that the US gold has been sold on to the open market over the last four decades to suppress the price of gold. This article suggests that Fort Knox may only be holding gold plated Tungsten bars: http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1258049769.php

    I hope my gold is real!

  • 8. Jonty

    (25 November 2009, 01:08PM)  Complain about this comment

    Mr Frisby you are a genius. Thanks for another gem.

  • 9. Novato

    (25 November 2009, 03:01PM)  Complain about this comment

    As a Gold Virgen, can anyone explain how to buy physical Gold in London say, as it's priced in Dollars or some such device which makes it all very confusing. Can we have a piece on purchasing procedue/pitfalls etc. I mean an idiot's guide. There are a few of us amongst your readers. Or could it be that I'm simply too lazy to pick up a phone ...? No, I probably wouldn't remember what I was told.

  • 10. Dave McCabe

    (25 November 2009, 03:43PM)  Complain about this comment

    Good article by Dominic as usual, but it is perhaps generous to say the money supply is only $1.7 tr - this is presumably the 'M1' measure. According to the Shadowstats website, the 'M3' measure (which includes dollars that are not in general circulation) is about $15 tr. Using this figure, each ounce of gold the Fed allegedly has is worth $57,692! Put the other way round each dollar is worth 539 millionths of a gram - about a speck of gold dust. When this thing unwinds I think we will see a new gold-backed currency called the goldgram - or perhaps even microgram!

  • 11. bazzergold

    (25 November 2009, 05:00PM)  Complain about this comment

    I appreciate all the articles BUT where does this put Gold to Dollar ratios when related back to purchases made in UK in Sterling, when Sterling converts back to Dollars to Sell or Buy Gold which is valued in dollars..
    Recent substantial (Sterling) investment with gold since up 32% yet still shows a net loss in sterling terms !!!

  • 12. Malcolm

    (25 November 2009, 05:46PM)  Complain about this comment

    In relation to the comments by dagagen and cooldude with regard to gold supply, I believe that production is almost irrelevant in the gold market.

    Gold is generally not consumed and most of the 150,000 tonnes ever mined is still in existence. Most of that 150,000 tonnes is readily 'tradable'.

    The annual supply, through mining, of just over 2,000 tonnes makes up a very, very small part of the trading stock. If supply increases or falls by a few percent in a given year, despite the significance given in the press, this will have very little impact.

    Confidence in the monetary system is a great deal more important IMHO - this is why gold is increasing in value now.

  • 13. folden

    (25 November 2009, 07:58PM)  Complain about this comment

    In response to dagagen, several articles have been posted lately stating that we are past peak gold. World production is on the downslope. These claims have come from both gold miners, and assorted other gold experts. South African production is falling rapidly, and their claims of gold left in the ground are wildly exagerrated. China is now the world's largest gold producer, and they are keeping all of theirs. All of this is very bullish for the gold price, not to mention the race to nothingness being pursued by most fiat currency managers.

  • 14. cooldude

    (25 November 2009, 09:34PM)  Complain about this comment

    In reply to bazzergold I wouldn't get too upset about the temporary strength of Sterling at the moment. It is almost as flawed a currency as the Dollar and this will manifest itself soon. Even against the so called "strong currencies" such as the Aussie Dollar and the Euro gold is shaping up for a breakthrough. Doug Casey has described trying to pick a good paper currency as "a beauty contest in a leper colony." That sums them up pretty well.

  • 15. nigel isherwood

    (26 November 2009, 03:55AM)  Complain about this comment

    What about bond yields. With 3 month bonds at 0% there is obviously a short term incentive to buy gold as it rises. But back in the 70's, bond yields were much much higher, as investors sold government debt and put money in gold which was rising faster than the yield (on gov bonds). Shares also fell during that period. It seems to me that before s genuine bull market or bubble can get underway, then the bond market will have to lose faith and sell of in a meaningful way. Bye, Nige

  • 16. Malcolm

    (26 November 2009, 12:54PM)  Complain about this comment

    In response to folden, gold production has been falling because we had a 20 year bear market in gold until around 2001 and investment in gold mining plumeted. It takes a long time for this to be turned around.

    Reinvestment has been happening for the last few years with not much to show for it - you can bet your life that with gold solidly above $1,000 dollar an ounce this will be rapdily reversed - all the miners that I am invested in are currently ramping up production amd hitting new targets.

    It is still confidence, not production, that will impact the gold price :-).

  • 17. Miles

    (26 November 2009, 12:57PM)  Complain about this comment

    Peak production is a buzz word which is being received how it was intended to be. Check out

    http://goldpricetoday.co.uk/archive/gold-evolving-supply-demand-56364

    You have to question why Barrick Gold’s president Aaron Regent would announce this. COuld it be he intends to whip up a frenzy, which could ultimately lead to higher gold prices, or is he just pointing to the facts?

    Either way, as Malcolm pointed out, peak production is not as important as peak oil but if it continues to gain media coverage then the markets will play to investors fears which can only be good for the gold price.

  • 18. Keith P

    (26 November 2009, 08:03PM)  Complain about this comment

    Novato asked how to buy physical gold, and nobody has replied. I bought some last week as an ETF (Exchange Trade Fund) which tracks the gold price, so you can keep it in your share trading portfolio and there's no issue about storage, insurance, or security. And you can sell quickly too. If you want to buy using this method the trading code is GBSS. GBS stands for Gold Bullion Securities, you can look it up on google. The price of this share is in sterling, presently at around £69.
    I have a personal CREST account and my broker required me to sign a form to declare I knew what I was doing buying ETFs. (Do I?!!!) That takes a day or so. Up over £300 so far despite concern I was buying on the top of the market. Since its in my portfolio I can see the price change at the click of a mouse. As shares generally headed south today, it cheers me up to see an item that hasn't done the same thing.

  • 19. Martin

    (12 December 2009, 09:45PM)  Complain about this comment

    In London, you can buy gold coins or bars at ATS Bullion, or at the Harrods department store.

    The gold price which you see in the newspapers is the number of US dollars required to buy one troy ounce (approx. 31 grammes) of gold. Similarly, the silver price which you see in the newspapers is the number of US dollars required to buy one troy ounce of silver.

    Gold is currently worth about 1100 US dollars per troy ounce. Divide this number by about 1.6 to get the number of UK pounds required to buy one troy ounce of gold. At the moment, about £690 will buy you one troy ounce of gold.

  • 20. Beta Adjusted

    (21 July 2011, 01:06AM)  Complain about this comment

    Interesting ... why is everyone suddenly producing this chart only now? Anthony Boeckh produced a similar chart/figure for the US in his book 'The Great Reflation' ... his figure for the gold price was about $27,000 (or was that $54k?) *if* the US was forced to monetize all its debt. Note that he was cautious on suggesting that this would happen in his book, which was published early '09 I think. Definitely worth reading, lots of useful charts (hes a famous guy, Chairman of BCA research in the US)

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