The long and tragic history of the pound

By Dominic Frisby Feb 02, 2011

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I was lucky enough to be at Cheviot Asset Management's conference on sound money last week. As a result of what I heard there, I've begun reading Andrew Dickson White's Fiat Money Inflation In France, a short but utterly compelling history of the monetary events leading up the French Revolution.

The whole process has turned me into even more of a gold bug, if such a thing were possible. In fact, it's put me in one of those frames of mind where I want to get rid of every last pound, dollar and euro I have, buy bullion, and make a run for it.

One thing in particular was really rammed home to me – what an absolute, complete and utter dog the pound has been for the last 97 years. Even by the standards of other Western government currencies – most of which, ultimately, will be worth little more than the paper they're printed on – it has been awful.

Let me explain.

The pound's purchasing power has plummeted

One of the speakers was the Mexican billionaire Hugo Salinas Price, who, now in his retirement, is spearheading a campaign to get silver re-introduced as money. He held up a one pound coin. "This piece of brass," he said in a voice eerily reminiscent of Marlon Brando's Don Corleone, "is one of your pounds. The famous pound. The backbone of your great empire."

Then, in his other hand he held up another coin, a gold sovereign. "A hundred years ago this was your pound – 7.32 grammes of pure gold."

Gesturing with the brass, he said: "It took me 235 of these," - he motioned with the sovereign - "to buy one of these".

In other words, the purchasing power of the pound has fallen by 235 times in a hundred years.

Below is a chart I found a few years ago in a 2003 House of Commons paper. I have posted it before. It shows the purchasing power of the pound from 1750 to 2002.

Purchasing power of the pound from 1750 to 2002

Notice how consistent the pound's purchasing power was from 1750 until 1914. During that period a sovereign was a pound. We were on a gold standard. But in 1914 we came off, so that our government could print the money it needed to pay for World War One. (In fact if monetary discipline had been maintained, that war would have had ended just a few months after it began. Neither the British, nor the Germans, had the money to pay for it.)

Almost as soon as we came off the gold standard, the pound's purchasing power declined. There was a rally when Winston Churchill put us back on in the 1920s. But since we came off again in the early 1930s, the purchasing power of the pound has fallen and fallen and fallen.

It has continued to fall since the end of that chart in 2002, as the cost of food, energy, housing – most things, in other words – has risen.

One of the other speakers, James Turk, the founder and president of Goldmoney, presented another chart, which my regular readers will also be familiar with. It shows crude oil prices since 1950, measured in pounds, dollars, euros and gold.

Crude oil prices since 1950, measured in pounds, dollars, euros and gold

If you look at the red line, which shows the crude oil price measured in gold, you can see that crude oil prices are pretty much the same as they were 50 years ago. That's amazing when you think about it – crude oil prices measured in gold are pretty much unchanged.

The next line up, in purple, shows oil prices in deutschmarks/euros. The price has risen, but, for a fiat currency, the deutschmark-euro has held its purchasing power fairly well (although it's also worth noting that it held its purchasing power better as a deutschmark than as a euro).

Then in green we see the benchmark oil price in US dollars. The loss of purchasing power is awful. But it gets worse.

The blue line at the top of the pile of junk represents the currency that buys you the least oil – our Great British pound. Mr Turk could at least have saved us some face by charting the oil price in Italian lira as well.

Is it any wonder that so many of us have sought refuge from this destruction of our money over the decades by buying property? At least some of your wealth gets preserved. Some buy houses because they 'only go up'. As a nation, we are obsessed with them as investment. But really it is just that our money buys us less and less.

How has the pound been allowed to fall like this?

What I find amazing is that the first chart, a most graphic illustration of what has happened to our money, comes from a House of Commons paper. And yet in the last 70 years – for two generations – no politician of note has seriously called or campaigned for proper monetary reform. Indeed, nor have the British people.

How has this debasement been allowed to happen? I think it's the boiling-frog syndrome. We don't notice it on a week-to-week or year-to-year basis, unless it happens 'too quickly', as in the 1970s. In fact, we seem to accept this endless erosion in our purchasing power as normal. But it isn't.

It's because we operate under this 'fiat' system, whereby governments and banks have the ability to issue money and credit. There are not the same restrictions on the creation of money as there are on a metallic system, so the supply of money has grown exponentially. And just as with anything else, the more money there is, the less it buys you.

In fact, this system actually incentivises the creation of new money. Those closest to money's issuance (banks and borrowers) benefit most from it at the expense of those furthest from it (savers and those on fixed income). They get to buy services and assets before prices have risen to reflect the new money in circulation and, in the case of banks, they get to charge interest on it too.

As long as we have this system, more and more money will be created, money will buy you less, bubbles will get blown, mal-investment will continue, banks will continue to earn insane amounts of money, and those furthest from money's issuance will feel poorer and poorer as each week passes.

Protect yourself from this system

Has this system enrichened us? Or has it tricked us? We enjoy a higher standard of living than ever before, but is that simply because mankind has advanced? In fact more and more working hours seem necessary just to enjoy a ordinary middle class lifestyle, as my colleague Merryn Somerset Webb has blogged about on a number of occasions (The middle classes died a long time ago). It's something to think about.

Some may point to the recent strength in the pound, and the fact that it has rallied above $1.61 against the US dollar in recent weeks. But ultimately, that is just comparing junk with rubbish.

The way to protect yourself from all of this is to get out of money and into things – shares, commodities, wine, fine art, anything – and hope that the asset you choose rises to reflect the new money in circulation. Indeed, this is why we have this rampant asset price inflation.

And if, like me, you're really bearish, and you think there is only so much more of this that the monetary system can take, you want to buy gold. (By the way, if you want to read that short history of Fiat Money Inflation In France, and I recommend you do, it's here. Substitute the names of the French protagonists with those of Ben Bernanke, Mervyn King, Tim Geithner, et al. The pronouncements are the same. Plus ça change...)

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  • 1. Mark E Cha Cha

    (02 February 2011, 11:48AM)  Complain about this comment

    But you can put your pound in a savings account and get paid interest. That preserves most of its purchasing power.

  • 2. Spencer Hall

    (02 February 2011, 11:53AM)  Complain about this comment

    If you asked 12 economists a question you will get 13 different answers including 2 from Keynes.

    But ask 12 economists what happens if you increase the amount of money in circulation (calling it QE makes no difference) they will all agree on the answer. Inflation.

  • 3. Michael Lewis

    (02 February 2011, 11:58AM)  Complain about this comment

    "But you can put your pound in a savings account and get paid interest. That preserves most of its purchasing power"

    Erm... do you know a savings account that pays above inflation ? If so, please share with the rest of us.

  • 4. Brian Cooper

    (02 February 2011, 12:00PM)  Complain about this comment

    I'm an old man now, but if I had bought gold with my savings over the last 60 years I would be much richer than I am now - in particular I would have avoided having the British Government and their lackies in the Financial Services Authority (both protecting the pirates in the City of London) from stealing about 30% of my pension savings which I was foolish enough to entrust to the Equitable Life Assurance Society - young people - do not trust politicians - if you save buy precious metals and bury them in the garden!

  • 5. Phil

    (02 February 2011, 12:02PM)  Complain about this comment

    Traditional society encourages wealthy people to hoard things - whether it's gold, land, serfs or anything else. A fiat currency, with constant money creation encourages spending rather than hoarding. For a society based on fiat currency to succeed, it requires a different mentality, one of interdependence with other people rather than 'financial fortress' mentality.

  • 6. iain

    (02 February 2011, 12:02PM)  Complain about this comment

    Possibly your best article yet Dominic.

    Senator Ron Paul in the states has been preaching this for a long time now.

    Have you checked out 1.money as debt (the goldsmith's tale). and 2.zeitgeist addendum(federal reserve).

    The financial crime that central and international banks have commited against humanity are greater than any other.Our financial system is insane but it serves well those who control it.

  • 7. Cooldude

    (02 February 2011, 12:04PM)  Complain about this comment

    Great article Dominic. As you rightly point out none of this is new and there have been countless periods of money debasement throughout history and they all resulted in extreme inflation. This current experiment with unbacked currency will end similarly. We need to move to a backed system of money which will protect savers and the elderly. Hogo Salinas Price's "Libertad" silver coin proposal seems a workable system that could be introduced without too much bother.

  • 8. Alex

    (02 February 2011, 12:15PM)  Complain about this comment

    I think the answer is that we are all aware of general inflation, but hope/feel that each of us can raise our income with inflation but make adjustments meaning that our personal rate of inflation is more subdued.

    For example I might expect inflation of 5% this year and push for a pay rise, but feel that I can keep my expenditure flat.

    An equivalent is that we are all well aware of grade inflation in schools, but individually are still very pleased when out child get 15 A* GCSEs because we tell ourselves that in this particular case, little Jonny is actually very very clever.

  • 9. Bertha Vanation

    (02 February 2011, 12:31PM)  Complain about this comment

    Successive governments of all shades have compounded this erosion of wealth by their dishonest and manipulative CPI & RPI calculation methods. These figures are deliberately massaged down to suppress entitlement programmes i.e. pensions and welfare payments on which inflation is linked.

    Anyone that believes that governments to what is in the best interests of their populace need a serious reality check.

  • 10. Keith Hughes

    (02 February 2011, 12:32PM)  Complain about this comment

    Money in real terms is equal to wealth. The wealth we have is a product of what we produce. If we don't produce enough we have insuficient wealth and we remain poor.
    The value of the pound reflects our afluence in wealth terms. At this time it's value indicates that we are not producing enough to meet our needs.
    It's as simple as that but no one takes any notice and we will continue to get poorer and poorer.
    What we do today will echo into the future.

  • 11. iain

    (02 February 2011, 12:37PM)  Complain about this comment

    Good article Dominic.Have you seen 'money as debt(the goldsmiths tale) or Zeitgeist addendum(federal reserve).

    Senator Ron Paul has been preaching this for years.He should be President.At least until a bankers assassin sends him the same way as Lincoln.

    Oh,poster above ... how does bank deposit interest at barely half a percent keep pace with inflation at 4% ?

  • 12. Paranoid Maurice

    (02 February 2011, 12:38PM)  Complain about this comment

    I would like to respond to Mark E Cha Cha, but I`m speechless. Did he stumble on Money Week and was disappointed because there were no pictures? Or is he actually bright enough to be sarcastic?


  • 13. Jim Bunting

    (02 February 2011, 12:47PM)  Complain about this comment

    When the time comes to pass and you are feeling very rich sitting on your carefully hoarded gold, you will be in for a nasty shock!

    Hoarding gold will make you the Enemy of the State – YOU will have caused the catastrophe not their fiat money.

    By a new law, you simply won’t be able to sell your gold – unless of course you sell it to the government for a fraction of its worth.

  • 14. Mark Parker

    (02 February 2011, 01:00PM)  Complain about this comment

    The basic problem is that gold has gone up massively in the last five years if someone buys now they are buying into a bubble. The bubble may have further to grow of course, and it may even not be a bubble but the new normal, but the lesson of the 1970s is that gold can drop like a stone and take several decades to recover its previous high.

    Silver has its own problems as a store of value. If you want physical delivery of more than a trivial amount you will be paying VAT. That means it has to appreciate by more than 20% before you break even.

    The problem with returning to a precious metal monetary system is that our enormous debts and liabilities (eg public sector pension liabilities) will also become redeemable in metal.

    We basically need a tri-metallic system: gold for long-term savings, silver for day-to-day transactions, and paper to pay off our debts.


  • 15. Rob

    (02 February 2011, 01:20PM)  Complain about this comment

    Democracy is the tyranny of the majority, and the majority don't care as they are supported by the state. This situation is not new and is not going to change so we have to learn to live with it - be employed by the state or supported by the state if possible. If not possible keep your wits about you.

  • 16. David

    (02 February 2011, 01:23PM)  Complain about this comment

    @ Mark E Cha Cha

    What savings account are you using and has it done as well as gold?
    Please share.

  • 17. JL

    (02 February 2011, 01:24PM)  Complain about this comment

    but...last week you said don't buy gold (yet). How about an update on that.

  • 18. Mark E Cha Cha

    (02 February 2011, 01:35PM)  Complain about this comment

    Touched a nerve I feel. Just look back at any reputable study of asset returns over the last 100 years and you'll see cash returns pretty much match inflation. Take off tax and they are a little below of course. Whether you can get a savings account right now that beats inflation makes little difference - we're talking 100 years. Sometimes the available savings accounts beat inflation, other times (like now) they do not. A few years ago you could have got 8% from Egg from example.

  • 19. adam

    (02 February 2011, 01:40PM)  Complain about this comment

    Good article...thought provoking and has made me think more of buying physical gold rather than etf. Maybe I should buy an antique Rolex (seems to have all thinks humans love to value - gold, antiques, rarity...)?

    To:
    "Oh,poster above ... how does bank deposit interest at barely half a percent keep pace with inflation at 4% ?"

    and:
    "I would like to respond to Mark E Cha Cha, but I`m speechless. Did he stumble on Money Week and was disappointed because there were no pictures? Or is he actually bright enough to be sarcastic? "

    Northern Rock pay 2.5% (I had 3% last month) on instant savings. Try them. Its also unlikely to go bust twice (is that even possible?).

    There is also the Post office at 2.9%. For zero risk that seems a good deal. You might have lost 6% of your capital on gold if you had bought it last month @1400. It depends on your risk profile and when you need the money.

    No need to be a glib/smug...though

    Much love.

    A

  • 20. Paul

    (02 February 2011, 02:02PM)  Complain about this comment

    Part 1 - @Mark Parker - I hear this bubble talk often but it couldn't be further from the truth. How many people actually own gold? Hardly anybody! Sentiment for gold is awful with bubble talk left, right and centre. And if you measure prices in gold they've been relatively stable. If gold's in a bubble it would buy many times more barrels of oil than it does.

    The lesson of the 70s was that gold reached a bubble because it went up 26 fold. It was the 80s and 90s where gold did badly - partly because when the bubble pops and people lose money, it encourages more people to get out. Paper finance was all the rage and central banks were dishoarding gold - not to mention the LBMA and Comex selling paper claims on the same piece of gold many times over.

    And then finally we have derivatives which I believe keep a lot of the money that's been created away from landing on real goods and services. If there was only a physical market we'd really get to see how much money had been created.

  • 21. Paul

    (02 February 2011, 02:03PM)  Complain about this comment

    Part 2 - The world reserve currency is the $, and the US gets to export its inflation. The biggest bubble of all time is the currency bubble. If those dollars finally get spent it's game over for this money experiment. All the 3500 other fiat currencies died. Sure, everyone is on the same system so as they all devalue the drop is hidden somewhat but I'm meant to believe that this time, for no particular reason at all, it's different.

    Inflation of the money supply and fractional reserve banking is theft. It should never have been established. It should never have been ratified as not being subject to bailment law.

    When it's failings were apparent and bank runs occurred, it should never have been protected with central banking, deposit insurance and legal tender laws. If you read the history of banking in colonial countries under both British and US occupation they discussed openly how to rip them off but domestically it's for own own good - don't make me laugh.

  • 22. Paul

    (02 February 2011, 02:03PM)  Complain about this comment

    Part 3 - I recommend anyone read "Origins of the Federal Reserve"..
    http://mises.org/journals/qjae/pdf/qjae2_3_1.pdf

    ...and...

    Mystery of Banking by Murray Rothbard
    http://mises.org/books/mysteryofbanking.pdf

    I genuinely feel sorry for anybody saving sterling in banks unless they know this information and choose to accept it...

    @Dominic - you're one of the few people in Britain who is tackling these subjects and it's much appreciated - keep it up!

  • 23. Terence Frisby

    (02 February 2011, 02:06PM)  Complain about this comment

    Splendid article: clearly argued, lucidly expressed and illustrated, informative, comprehensive. I am proud to say he is my son.

    Now, what about one comparing house prices in a goodish area of London over the last fifty years to gold, bearing in mind all of the pluses and minuses to be factored in.

  • 24. Steve

    (02 February 2011, 02:19PM)  Complain about this comment

    The problem with with buying physical gold and burying it in the garden is that you also need to buy a revolver and sleep with it loaded under your pillow. With, of course, the corresponding knock-on effect on your love-life as your better half objects to this arrangement.

  • 25. Roland

    (02 February 2011, 03:01PM)  Complain about this comment

    I see gold as the creditors vote and nose thumb to idiot central bankers and politicians. As I think Dominic's dad is suggesting, property is also a good long term wealth preserver but in my opinion currently overvalued in the UK at least. Whereas until there is a global currency sustainable interest rate above global inflation rate then gold is no bubble and in fact is still the forgotten asset class for most people. Still buying so I hope that's right! Dominic keeps the faith for me.

  • 26. Baxter Basics

    (02 February 2011, 03:01PM)  Complain about this comment

    I recommend everyone to sell all their property, bonds and shares as quickly as possible, then borrow as much money as you possibly can, and spend all that worthless filthy fiat paper on physical gold, because the gold price only ever goes up (this time it's different, you see).

  • 27. Bertha Vanation

    (02 February 2011, 03:06PM)  Complain about this comment

    One thing to add in relation to gold and silver. The physical metals are both tiny markets compared to other assets (particularly silver of which the entire global above ground inventory could be purchased for about $30bn).

    When TSHTF, the physical will be selling for way above the spot price, we saw this in Greece last May with physical Gold selling for $1,700 and when Lehman collapsed in 2008, silver eagles were changing hands for x4 spot price.

  • 28. Jerry H

    (02 February 2011, 03:28PM)  Complain about this comment

    Splendid, Dominic! How interesting then to read A.Koletsky in the Times today lauding the USA, who seemingly are recovering faster than us, but he omits to point out they are doing it by increasing yet further their unresolved mountain of debt. And The Fed now holds more US Treasury bonds than China! Please redraw your charts one year hence!

  • 29. Mark Parker

    (02 February 2011, 04:04PM)  Complain about this comment

    Some commentators seem to have missed my point: yes, gold, land and houses are good long-term inflation-proof stores of value. But that doesn't mean it's a good idea to buy them right now - we could easily see a sudden lurch down in any of these, they all seem over-valued at the moment.

    Recommending you move your savings into gold seems to be missing the boat by several years.

    Of course if the UK adopted gold as its legal tender then (1) you would have no choice, and (2) it would stabilize the price of gold and make it a safer bet (I'm not saying what level it would stabilze it at though!)

  • 30. Basher

    (02 February 2011, 04:10PM)  Complain about this comment

    Very thought provoking article but Gold is just as arbitary and abstract a measure of wealth as paper money.

    As the article almost points out on the Gold Standard the UK would have suffered from a hugely over valued currency. One of the UKs problems was of course that in the 70's we were on the "Oil Standard" with North Sea oil driving up the the value of the pound.

    This destroyed UK competitiveness and lead to stagflation which in tuirn lead to the adoption of Thatcherite anti inflation policies and the subsequent destruction of manufacturing. The legacy of which was the the creation of an economy dependent on financial services and look where that got us.

    The Gold Standard unfortunately is not a panecea.

  • 31. Garyd

    (02 February 2011, 05:01PM)  Complain about this comment

    Couldn't agree more with the article and in particluar the assertion that "Banks will make insane amounts of money" because that's what this (the debasement of money especially the GBP/USD) is all about. The "hands that rocjk the cradle" are Bankers hands - a small number of individuals and/or corporations who are hedging our currency(ies) to make obscene amounts of money at the expense of the ordinary citizens. Maybe we need to take a leaf out of the French Revolutionaries' book and revolt! Like Bill Bonner has said on many occasion these are the exciting times of a Great Correction and I'm glad I'm alive to see it!

  • 32. C Park

    (02 February 2011, 05:09PM)  Complain about this comment

    Does gold preserve it's value once storage costs and insurance is taken into account? I think not. Also if you consider certain other commodity metals, they have far outperformed gold. What is conveniently not mentioned is that cash historically pays interest above the rate of inflation and this is compounded over time. Gold gives you nada. The real outrage is that the BoE is currently cynically manipulating sub-inflationary interest rates to stealthily further bail out the bankrupt banks.

  • 33. jrj90620

    (02 February 2011, 06:03PM)  Complain about this comment

    Fiat currencies are dishonest money systems.Dishonesty gets bad results.We are getting what we deserve.In the U.S. there are few politicians that advocate a honest money system.One is Ron Paul.He owns a porfolio of precious metals stocks.

  • 34. Roland

    (02 February 2011, 06:03PM)  Complain about this comment

    If gold is a bubble then it is the last bubble in the cycle of bubble economics driven by the devaluation of fiat currencies, principally the Dollar. I think that was what Soros was saying. To end the cycle, fiat currencies need sustained support in preference to 'growth'/inflation. I am not holding my breath. When currencies are explicitly valued as worthless via -ve real interest rates, everything is a bubble. Gold is the currency/baseline that cannot be devalued by Governments.

  • 35. Charlie M

    (02 February 2011, 06:24PM)  Complain about this comment

    The very fact that Sterling has survived the 20th century is an enormous achievement. Most failed.

  • 36. Mike

    (02 February 2011, 06:47PM)  Complain about this comment

    Hi Dominic
    As my economics teacher used to say, 'everything is relative'.

    Best wishes

  • 37. You cannot eat gold

    (02 February 2011, 07:11PM)  Complain about this comment

    So it takes a lot more pounds to buy a lump of gold. You cannot eat gold so most people don't buy it. What matters to most people is how much things cost that they actually need and how much their wages or income from their savings have gone up in comparison.

    OK at the moment if you had bought gold you would be showing a paper profit. However you could have said the same in the 80's and look what happened then gold plunged and then in the 90's we had very high interest rates.

    Did your Mexican say how much £1 invested 100 years ago in the top paying savings rate would be worth now? A quick exercise in a spreadsheet at just 5% a year shows £125 (pre-tax, it could include be years in a tax free ISA). Obviously the picture isn't quite as bad as 1:235 is it? On the gold there could be storage, insurance and CGT costs.

    How do you spend your "profit" on gold unless you sell it for paper money?


  • 38. PaulB

    (02 February 2011, 08:36PM)  Complain about this comment

    Why does this chart stop at 2002. Is it not possible to gather this infomation for 2002 - 20010 or is the chart is only listing information that will help the article?

  • 39. Paul

    (02 February 2011, 09:37PM)  Complain about this comment

    @You cannot eat gold - you're right - you can't really eat paper/copper/nickel money for that matter. That's exactly the point - you swap your gold for whatever currency you require when you want to spend it. That's easy today because electronic transfers and modern clearing houses. And when your paper money evaporates, you can spend gold and silver because it has always and is likely to always be accepted. There have been 30 hyperinflations in the last 100 years and no-one has really learned the lesson.

    Holding fiat paper seems convenient today because of our system - we have CGT to punish people who don't wish to hold our currency and legal tender laws to ensure people ultimately transact at least partly in fiat money. If we had free banking or 100% reserve banking, we'd all use paper still but it wouldn't be lent into existence. The way you earn interest is through loan banking rather than deposit banking, so the gold pays no interest argument is totally bogus.

  • 40. John

    (02 February 2011, 09:54PM)  Complain about this comment

    Thanks for the article Dominic. I have recently received quite a few unsolicited emails from the US expressing almost identical views about the downfall of the dollar. One point I would make is that, depending on which period you choose, the purchasing power of the deutschmark may not be as resilient as you imply as its value collapsed to virtually nothing owing to hyperinflation in the 1920s, the pound has never done that! My own response to the current threat of pound & dollar collapses is to diversify my investments into countries which have not printed huge amounts of money and with currencies backed by natural resources, such as Canada and Australia.

  • 41. NG2 Will

    (02 February 2011, 10:21PM)  Complain about this comment

    Mr Frisby this is all incredibly disingenuous.

    What matters is real incomes relative to productivity and economic growth.

    In the post war period we had sustained economic growth, full employment and a bit of inflation, a growing and prosperous middle and aspiring working class and hardly any under class. Most people shared the proceeds of growth.

    Since the 1970s wages have fallen behind labour productivity by 25%, we are all due one hell of a pay-rise! We've also had mass unemployment/underclass not seen since we disastrously went back on the self-crucifying cross of gold standard combined with the Geddes(?) Liberal slashing of government spending. Coincidence? One thinks not...do you really want to return us to that Victorian workhouse pauperisation, or better still to be feudal debt serfs?

  • 42. NG2 Will

    (02 February 2011, 10:30PM)  Complain about this comment

    Regular savings with First Direct give 8% for a year...

    When rates went up before the slump, they were much higher than inflation...I made a mint on cash that year.

    Most people's major income is their wage, savings are irrelevant for the 49% of the population who save on average a few grand.

  • 43. Paul

    (03 February 2011, 12:06AM)  Complain about this comment

    @NG2 Will - the "gold standard" you are talking about was actually the "gold exchange standard" which was a completely different monetary system tried by both the British and the US at different times. The gold exchange standard was flawed, disingenuous at best and a complete disaster but Newton's gold standard and gold specie standard was a success. In fact if you look through 2000 years of monetary history the most stable and prosperous times were under a gold standard, even whilst having to endure fractional reserve banking. It was the debasement of gold that caused problems. The biggest problem is when gold is re-adopted at a price far below where it needs to be. Money is supposed to be a numéraire - how can we measure things if we keep altering the yardstick? Sound money and non-manipulated interest rates are imperative for a stable system. Interfere with the signalling mechanism and you get booms, busts & mal-investment. I think Austrian Business Cycle Theory is spot on..

  • 44. JDEvolutionist

    (03 February 2011, 12:45AM)  Complain about this comment

    Andrew Dickson White’s Fiat Money Inflation In France - this article MUST be read.
    Not that the content is surprising; it's just that it so clearly demonstrates how history repeats itself. It's how to stop it repeating that is so hard and is probably impossible. But, if current policies and attitudes continue unchecked, the outcome will be similar except that this time its the world and not just France that will suffer.
    Goethe's Faust also contains reference to the evils of paper money printing.

  • 45. JJ

    (03 February 2011, 12:08PM)  Complain about this comment

    Just finished aforementioned "Fiat Money Inflation in France".

    This quote attributed to Daniel Webster says it all, " of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring classes of mankind none has been more effective than that which deludes them with paper money ".

    Great article DOMINIC.

  • 46. Hugh Dumas

    (03 February 2011, 12:25PM)  Complain about this comment

    I too was at the Cheviot Seminar and much enjoyed your presentation and others. I shall certainly be stocking up on Gold and other tangibles.

  • 47. Kieran

    (03 February 2011, 01:35PM)  Complain about this comment

    If gold was going up and commodities like copper, cotton, food etc etc were not going up in price, then yes I'd agree gold was in a bubble.

    However many commodities are going up in price, therefore it is the pound going down in value not gold going up in value that is making the price high.

    So when people say "gold can't keep going up in price" this means that they just don't understand that it's the currency going down in value which is the primary factor.

    As for comments regarding the selling of gold and goverments banning the sale.

    A) I doubt very much that this goverment could stop me selling my gold and silver in Perth back to the Perth Mint and

    B) I'd willingly go to prison and be fed, clothed and housed by the state, as it would be some payback for the amount of savings they have trashed, as this goverment can't afford to keep the current level of prisoners in prison I doubt they will want to add a few thousand more of us, ie it's not going to happen.

  • 48. Paul

    (03 February 2011, 04:23PM)  Complain about this comment

    I don't think gold will be banned or confiscated. When FDR issued Executive Order 6102 to prevent hoarding of gold, loads of people owned gold. So few people do today what would be the point? And if they were to seize stores of gold in vaults etc. that is tantamount to governments admitting that gold is an important part of the financial system. They'd be giving legitimacy to it which for the last 30-40 years they've gone to great pains to avoid because gold limits their power.

    Any stable numéraire would do - gold isn't perfect but it comes pretty close. History shows that governments, central banks and currency boards can't be disciplined enough to not expand the money stock, particularly under political pressure. Tangible assets of limited supply are about the best restraint we've got and gold is the top of that group because of its unique characteristics - portability, fungibility, durability, incredibly steady supply and non-destruction/non-consumption.

  • 49. Velocity

    (03 February 2011, 05:59PM)  Complain about this comment

    The destruction of Sterlings value is precisely what happens to anything when put in the hands of a monopoly, in this case the monopolists at the Bank of England but just as much The Fed or ECB.

    Open it up to a free competitive market and end this State illegality of endorsing monopoly power for a rich elite.

  • 50. Roger

    (03 February 2011, 09:39PM)  Complain about this comment

    So how much income has gold produced each and every year for the past 30 years - zilch. And by how much better off would i be now in terms of capital growth if over the same period i had invested in gold - zilch. Gold mania- i don't buy it.

  • 51. Paul

    (04 February 2011, 01:42AM)  Complain about this comment

    @roger - like so many people you assume that each year is identical to the next - that every year is independent of policy so what was a good investment in 1974 is a good investment in 1984 and in 1994 and in 2004 etc. Income is produced when you put money to work. You get paid for holding a cash balance at a bank so you consider it income. When you deposit cash at the bank you are in fact lending the bank the money - it becomes a liability of the bank. They lend it, which is why you earn interest, usually less than the rate of inflation. So why are you comparing paper money lent out for profit with gold not lent out for profit?. It doesn't make sense. It's one of those arguments that is either fallacious or disingenuous or from someone who doesn't understand our monetary system and the risks involved.

  • 52. J Russell

    (04 February 2011, 01:51AM)  Complain about this comment

    Gold value, paper money is there a revalance. Food, paper money is there a revalance. How much paper currencey I.E. dollars are there in the world. Can any person actually answer me. I don't thing so. What is food worth. Aparntly the paper its servered on. Russell

  • 53. Roland

    (04 February 2011, 07:58PM)  Complain about this comment

    Once more into the gold debate. Gold should be a terrible investment. As they say you can't eat it and it has no real utility. So the markets are either entirely irrational as many politicians would like us to believe or the 10 year bull run in fact speaks volumes as to what Governments have been doing to the true value of things by debasing global currencies. Gold is the final refuge of creditors who have lost faith that fiat currency Governments value them equally to debtors. I will be pleased to see the gold price falling, it will mean sensible economics has returned and I will make my income normally. Meanwhile delighted to see the naysayers as I think they will slowly come round and provide support for the next leg up!

  • 54. David Lawrence

    (04 February 2011, 10:26PM)  Complain about this comment

    It's all true, go back further to biblical times when an ounze of gold was worth what it is today. But the problem is the volatility and the periodicity relative to the human life-span. The records show recent times when the price went down and took 10 years to get back to where it was.

  • 55. Jim

    (05 February 2011, 01:08PM)  Complain about this comment

    Read the comments above. What struck me is that no one mentioned that we had a large empire until the 1950 when the colonies decided to liberate themselves.

    Could that not have an impact on the pound, as well as being involved in wars, such as Korean war in the 1950, the guerrilla war in Malaya, the upheaval in Africa & India. Could these be a drain on the economy, such as loss of protected markets where money from aboard was transferred back to the mother country?

  • 56. David Staples

    (07 February 2011, 12:27AM)  Complain about this comment

    "But you can put your pound in a savings account and get paid interest. That preserves most of its purchasing power"

    Well, apart from the point already made (the problem of finding a savings account that pays sufficient interest) there is another consideration.

    Do you trust the official inflation figures. I'm afraid I don't.

  • 57. NG2 Will

    (08 February 2011, 01:16PM)  Complain about this comment

    The problem is that as economies grow so does the amount of money in a controlled/controllable way.

    There also needs to be adjustment for different economies relative productivity and desires to save domestically and abroad.

    The Euro is another lunatic example of this.

    In a fixed exhange rate system there will always be net exporters with deflationary pressures and net importers with inflationary pressures, it's an inherently unstable dynamic contributed to and feedback looping into credit boom/bust capitalist crises.

  • 58. NG2 Will

    (08 February 2011, 01:25PM)  Complain about this comment

    All money is is a means of keeping score.

    Under commodity based money, controlled by rulers for their own benefit for most of human history growth has been pretty slow.

    With mass global unemployment, a global depression if you like, the cause is too little net spending, governments can easily step into this gap simply by cutting taxes VAT Job Taxes on earned Income and National Insurance/social security. Ideally the buffer stock of un/der-employed labour would become an employed decent living minimum waged one and so be a more effective anchor for prices, the better educated and productive the employed workforce the better off the society. Mass Unemployment is a colossal waste and drag on the dependency ratios.

  • 59. NG2 Will

    (08 February 2011, 01:27PM)  Complain about this comment

    All money is is a means of keeping score.

    Under commodity based money, controlled by rulers for their own benefit for most of human history growth has been pretty slow.

    With mass global unemployment, a global depression if you like, the cause is too little net spending, governments can easily step into this gap simply by cutting taxes VAT Job Taxes on earned Income and National Insurance/social security. Ideally the buffer stock of un/der-employed labour would become an employed decent living minimum waged one and so be a more effective anchor for prices, the better educated and productive the employed workforce the better off the society. Mass Unemployment is a colossal waste and drag on the dependency ratios.

  • 60. Larry levin

    (23 February 2011, 04:00PM)  Complain about this comment

    Does the chart showing the price of crude in pounds include compounded interest?

  • 61. Tim

    (05 April 2011, 09:57AM)  Complain about this comment

    Absolutely true.

    But it's not just the pound, and i'm surprised you didn't mention that.

    Thanks to the World Bank and Federal Reserve manipulating the money supply probably throughout the entire world - you could say the same about many countries and their currencies.

    Resources have value - Money is just useless paper.

    Hopefully one day we can come up with a better system of exchange, that isn't utterly corrupt, and completely designed to allow corruption - and a chance to get rich for the most evil people on the planet.

  • 62. Tim

    (05 April 2011, 10:05AM)  Complain about this comment

    Concerning the gold standard...

    In America in particular, people were asked to hand in all of their gold and possessions back in WW1 if I remember correctly.

    Under the name of "helping the war effort"

    In actual fact, it was just a scheme to rob people of their final wealth - ending up in the vaults of the banks - robbing humanity of it's last property.

    Unless we get back on the gold standard, and change historical records to refer to the Federal Reserve Act as "a criminal plan carried out by greedy evil bankers to try and take over control of the world and rob humans of their last shred of personal wealth and property" - we are all screwed - and people won't realise the real truth.

    The Bank of England is effectively "our Federal Reserve"

    Setup to suck the life out of our country, and the human race.

  • 63. Suresh

    (19 April 2011, 11:18AM)  Complain about this comment

    Buy property in India you can not go wrong. As the population is growing and Indians love property and gold

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